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Key Forfeiture, not Key Escrow

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NODE 30bc9b61Key Forfeiture, not Key Escrow
The Government seems to choose its terminology carefully in cases where
that terminology can affect the politics of a situation.  I suggest
that we start referring to key escrow as "key forfeiture".

Philip Zimmermann
NODE 89455ac1Re: Key Forfeiture, not Key Escrow
On Thu, 6 Oct 1994, Philip Zimmermann wrote:

> The Government seems to choose its terminology carefully in cases where
> that terminology can affect the politics of a situation.  I suggest
> that we start referring to key escrow as "key forfeiture".
> 
> Philip Zimmermann

Alright Phil, way to go!  But think on this, I wouldn't give the LEA a key
to my house, or my car, why should I give them a key to my thoughts?  Give
me Liberty or give me Death, or something to that effect by Patrick Henry. 
They can pry my key and my guns from my cold dead body.  Another thing,
even the animals have a right by force to protect themselves, who does big
brother think they are by denying me the right to protect my life, limb,
property and thoughts from unauthorized intruders?  Surely, we must fight
them tooth and nail. 

Dave
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NODE 5d92e042Re: Key Forfeiture, not Key Escrow
Philip Zimmermann scripsit
> 
> The Government seems to choose its terminology carefully in cases where
> that terminology can affect the politics of a situation.  I suggest
> that we start referring to key escrow as "key forfeiture".

This got me thinking about a potentially interesting aspect of this whole 
process.

Isn't this a taking?  Government is reducing the value of the key, and 
the associated software by forfeiting it.  It would seem to me that the 
value of a key "stored" by government makes:

1>  Insurance liability for cash transactions involving stored keys larger.
2>  A lessened value of services of the software.
3>  A reduced value to the user of what is essentially his property.

Thin on many grounds... but interesting none the less.

The public welfare exception will be the likely defense, but the burden 
is on the defendant to show public welfare.


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> Philip Zimmermann
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