NODE fefa4bbeNo Subject
Anonymous <nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>Fri, 18 Nov 94 18:26:16 PST
I have one more comment.
Earlier, I wrote:
> Critias_the_conspirator is of course another new pseudonym.
> >From time to time this Critias will comment on financial
> privacy.
Hear the words of Critias_the_conspirator:
Put your money in ``Greek'' banks. The tentacles are everywhere.
Critias_the_conspirator
NODE e36f5c90Re: ``Greek'' banks
"L. McCarthy" <lmccarth@ducie.cs.umass.edu>Fri, 18 Nov 94 18:49:44 PST
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Anonymous writes:
> I have one more comment.
>
> Earlier, I wrote:
>
> > Critias_the_conspirator is of course another new pseudonym.
>
> > >From time to time this Critias will comment on financial
> > privacy.
>
> Hear the words of Critias_the_conspirator:
>
> Put your money in ``Greek'' banks.
``Greek'' ? Do you mean banks operated by fraternity alumni, or what ?
> The tentacles are everywhere.
Uh...
> Critias_the_conspirator
...needs some authentication, methinks.
- -L. McCarthy
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NODE 9673a3b8Re: your mail
Black Unicorn <unicorn@access.digex.net>Fri, 18 Nov 94 20:31:28 PST
On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, Anonymous wrote:
>
>
> I have one more comment.
>
> Earlier, I wrote:
>
> > Critias_the_conspirator is of course another new pseudonym.
>
> > >From time to time this Critias will comment on financial
> > privacy.
>
> Hear the words of Critias_the_conspirator:
>
> Put your money in ``Greek'' banks. The tentacles are everywhere.
How is this a "comment" on financial privacy?
I could just as well say "Put your money in your matress." and probably
have the same level of education effect.
Financial structuring is a highly complex process that earns many people
hundreds of dollars (or francs) an hour because there are no blanket
rules. I suggest Critias_the_conspitator keep his day job. It will be
easier on him, and us.
>
> Critias_the_conspirator
>
-uni- (Dark)
073BB885A786F666 nemo repente fuit turpissimus - potestas scientiae in usu est
6E6D4506F6EDBC17 quaere verum ad infinitum, loquitur sub rosa - wichtig!
NODE 8582e1ebCritias Unmasked!
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Fri, 18 Nov 94 20:46:23 PST
Before the (unsigned) reputation of Critias_the_conspirator is tossed
about further, I was the author of the "anonymous" version.
(No, I can't prove this, either, but such is life.)
I wanted to remind folks of just how easy such unsigned reps can be
"used" by others. (No, I don't sign my own messages, due to hassles
with uploading signed messages to my Internet host, but I also rarely
use digital pseudonyms.)
> > Hear the words of Critias_the_conspirator:
> >
> > Put your money in ``Greek'' banks. The tentacles are everywhere.
I used the ``TeX'' style of quoting to suggest certain Medusan poster.
In any case, I have come clean, having made my point, I hope.
--Tim May
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NODE b729c0d4Re: Critias Unmasked!
Black Unicorn <unicorn@access.digex.net>Fri, 18 Nov 94 21:13:54 PST
On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
>
> Before the (unsigned) reputation of Critias_the_conspirator is tossed
> about further, I was the author of the "anonymous" version.
A pseudonym taken in by a pseudonym.
(Sigh)
>
> I wanted to remind folks of just how easy such unsigned reps can be
> "used" by others. (No, I don't sign my own messages, due to hassles
> with uploading signed messages to my Internet host, but I also rarely
> use digital pseudonyms.)
>
Point taken.
>
> I used the ``TeX'' style of quoting to suggest certain Medusan poster.
>
>
> --Tim May
>
>
> --
> ..........................................................................
> Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
[...]
>
>
073BB885A786F666 nemo repente fuit turpissimus - potestas scientiae in usu est
6E6D4506F6EDBC17 quaere verum ad infinitum, loquitur sub rosa - wichtig!
NODE a72fee9dRe: Critias Unmasked!
"L. McCarthy" <lmccarth@ducie.cs.umass.edu>Fri, 18 Nov 94 22:38:49 PST
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Tim May writes:
> Before the (unsigned) reputation of Critias_the_conspirator is tossed
> about further, I was the author of the "anonymous" version.
It's also interesting to note that I managed to form a definite opinion
about the "real" identity of the "real" Critias after reading, oh, about
five words of Critias' first message. I couldn't so easily slap a label on
Tim's mock Critias because he deliberately altered his writing style. Just a
reminder for those adopting pseudonyms to consider: if your normal style is
known, you need to appropriately pseudonymize the nym's writing style.
"Acting the part" is, after all, the main difficulty in maintaining an
assumed identity.
I'm not sure whether this alters liability issues significantly; if everyone
"knows" you're the person behind a nym which gets in trouble, but can't
conclusively prove it, does that help you ? I suspect not, especially
considering that the standard of evidence for civil cases like libel is
relatively weak. (If I'm out of my tree and libel is a criminal offense,
please correct me. IANAL, etc.)
- -L. McCarthy
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NODE 07af5bf6Re: Critias Unmasked!
Black Unicorn <unicorn@access.digex.net>Fri, 18 Nov 94 23:06:41 PST
On Sat, 19 Nov 1994, L. McCarthy wrote:
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> Tim May writes:
> > Before the (unsigned) reputation of Critias_the_conspirator is tossed
> > about further, I was the author of the "anonymous" version.
>
> It's also interesting to note that I managed to form a definite opinion
> about the "real" identity of the "real" Critias after reading, oh, about
> five words of Critias' first message. I couldn't so easily slap a label on
> Tim's mock Critias because he deliberately altered his writing style. Just a
> reminder for those adopting pseudonyms to consider: if your normal style is
> known, you need to appropriately pseudonymize the nym's writing style.
> "Acting the part" is, after all, the main difficulty in maintaining an
> assumed identity.
I thought of some kind of filter that standardized punctuation and
such to mask the little changes that cause identity associations....
Any ideas on the practical application of this, or perhaps its feasibility?
>
> I'm not sure whether this alters liability issues significantly; if everyone
> "knows" you're the person behind a nym which gets in trouble, but can't
> conclusively prove it, does that help you ? I suspect not, especially
> considering that the standard of evidence for civil cases like libel is
> relatively weak. (If I'm out of my tree and libel is a criminal offense,
> please correct me. IANAL, etc.)
>
> - -L. McCarthy
>
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073BB885A786F666 nemo repente fuit turpissimus - potestas scientiae in usu est
6E6D4506F6EDBC17 quaere verum ad infinitum, loquitur sub rosa - wichtig!
NODE 8c6f67f7Re: Critias Unmasked!
"Dr. D.C. Williams" <dcwill@python.ee.unr.edu>Fri, 18 Nov 94 23:31:46 PST
> relatively weak. (If I'm out of my tree and libel is a criminal offense,
> please correct me. IANAL, etc.)
>
> - -L. McCarthy
Is it coincidental, or a gift from the Gods, that the acronym for
"I am not a lawyer" also spells "I ANAL".
YIMV *
(* Your interpretation may vary)
=D.C. Williams <dcwill@ee.unr.edu>
NODE 84b6e0f4No Subject
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Sat, 19 Nov 94 09:01:14 PST
What tells me that a certain old friend of ours is back?
.pm
Anonymous says:
>
>
> I have one more comment.
>
> Earlier, I wrote:
>
> > Critias_the_conspirator is of course another new pseudonym.
>
> > >From time to time this Critias will comment on financial
> > privacy.
>
> Hear the words of Critias_the_conspirator:
>
> Put your money in ``Greek'' banks. The tentacles are everywhere.
>
> Critias_the_conspirator
>
>
>
>