NODE 13fa1b49Re: School Admins
Jonathan Cooper <entropy@IntNet.net>Sun, 27 Nov 94 13:43:04 PST
> > suspend him.' The administration, at least at my school, does *NOT* know
> > how to deal with computer networks. They threatened to suspend me for
> > insubordination if I didn't grep people's mail spools for obscenity -
> > call me a wimp, but I shut up and did it (deleting people I knew. :) ).
>
> Here's hoping you sent the grep victims anonymous mail with a PGP faq.
Riiight. It's not practical to bring PGP in - these AIX boxes have
disk drives but the C compiler has been removed. I don't have access to
another AIX box to compile PGP on, either. crypt(1) is good enough.
-jon
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NODE a28e95a0Re: School Admins
sdw@lig.net (Stephen D. Williams)Sun, 27 Nov 94 14:01:07 PST
Where was this at? Maybe we can voice our opinion to someone.
>
> > > suspend him.' The administration, at least at my school, does *NOT* know
> > > how to deal with computer networks. They threatened to suspend me for
> > > insubordination if I didn't grep people's mail spools for obscenity -
> > > call me a wimp, but I shut up and did it (deleting people I knew. :) ).
> >
> > Here's hoping you sent the grep victims anonymous mail with a PGP faq.
>
> Riiight. It's not practical to bring PGP in - these AIX boxes have
> disk drives but the C compiler has been removed. I don't have access to
> another AIX box to compile PGP on, either. crypt(1) is good enough.
>
> -jon
> ( --------[ Jonathan D. Cooper ]--------[ entropy@intnet.net ]-------- )
> ( PGP 2.6.2 keyprint: 31 50 8F 82 B9 79 ED C4 5B 12 A0 35 E0 9B C0 01 )
>
>
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NODE e7d12ba7Re: School Admins
Jonathan Cooper <entropy@IntNet.net>Sun, 27 Nov 94 14:05:34 PST
> Where was this at? Maybe we can voice our opinion to someone.
Thanks, but no thanks. I would like to graduate this June and I
intend to do so. This incident occurred last year and the offending
admin is no longer with our school.
-jon
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NODE 1f28846dRe: School Admins
Matt Blaze <mab@crypto.com>Sun, 27 Nov 94 15:42:13 PST
> Thanks, but no thanks. I would like to graduate this June and I
>intend to do so. This incident occurred last year and the offending
>admin is no longer with our school.
>
Hi,
One of the most surprising things that I discovered after dropping
out of high school (in my senior year) is just how little my "permanent
record" in school affected me after I was out. In particular, colleges
are remarkably flexible about admiting people with interesting backgrounds
who have demonstrated interests and skills in "non-standard" ways
and who seem to know why they want an education. (In other words, schools
look for reasons to admit people who may not have good grades but who've
done interesting things and who show unusual interests. Sometimes
all you have to do to show this is write a good essay or get a
convincing letter of recommendation from someone who knows you well
and has seen a side of you not reflected in your formal "record").
I'm mentioning this not to encourage you to drop out or to think that
nothing you do matters, but rather because your posts remind me of
me, 15 years ago. I believed, as you seem to, the message that my high
school was sending: do things exactly the "right way" or you'll never
get anywhere. In fact, I've discovered almost exactly the opposite to be
true. The fact that you're doing unusual stuff like exploring computers
and cryptography and the like suggests that you will have an
easier time than you might think being successful in the much less
structured life that you will be living after you finish high school.
Don't let anyone tell you that success in high school is the only
route to success in real life. The best kinds of success in life come
from finding ways to expand and exploit your own interests and intellect.
High schools rarely teach you anything about how to do this.
-matt (who dropped out of HS, and now has all the credentials that he
needs to do what he likes with his life)
NODE b043ede2Re: School Admins
NetSurfer <jdwilson@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>Sun, 27 Nov 94 18:56:16 PST
On Sun, 27 Nov 1994, Jonathan Cooper wrote:
> Riiight. It's not practical to bring PGP in - these AIX boxes have
> disk drives but the C compiler has been removed. I don't have access to
> another AIX box to compile PGP on, either. crypt(1) is good enough.
Perhaps someone out there could assist this gent by emailing him an
AIX-compiled binary of PGP 2.6.2? (Or a p.d. C compiler?)
-NetSurfer
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NODE f7335572Re: School Admins
Joe Turner <turner@telecheck.com>Mon, 28 Nov 94 10:09:47 PST
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Nov 1994, Jonathan Cooper wrote:
>
> > Riiight. It's not practical to bring PGP in - these AIX boxes have
> > disk drives but the C compiler has been removed. I don't have access to
> > another AIX box to compile PGP on, either. crypt(1) is good enough.
>
> Perhaps someone out there could assist this gent by emailing him an
> AIX-compiled binary of PGP 2.6.2? (Or a p.d. C compiler?)
>
John,
What kind of AIX box? I have an IBM RT/PC running an old version of AIX
at home, and might have access to a RISC/6000 if I need it. Tell me
what kind of machine you are running and I will dump the executables
somewhere you can get it.
... if you want it.
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NODE ecb93ff2Re: School Admins
jpb@gate.netSun, 27 Nov 94 21:33:29 PST
Re:
> > > suspend him.' The administration, at least at my school, does *NOT* know
> > > how to deal with computer networks. They threatened to suspend me for
> > > insubordination if I didn't grep people's mail spools for obscenity -
> > > call me a wimp, but I shut up and did it (deleting people I knew. :) ).
> >
> > Here's hoping you sent the grep victims anonymous mail with a PGP faq.
>
> Riiight. It's not practical to bring PGP in - these AIX boxes have
> disk drives but the C compiler has been removed. I don't have access to
> another AIX box to compile PGP on, either. crypt(1) is good enough.
Jon,
I guess you're right - if they're so clueless that they have to get you to
run grep for them they're clueless enough to be stymied by crypt - all you
have to do is go "Duh, its encrypted, I don't know how to uncrypt."
How long do you think it'll be before crypt disappears, though?
Are these machines connected to the net? If so, pointing them in the
direction of the remailers might be a good thing.
Joe
P.S. I realize it is a lot easier for me to make these suggestions than
for you to implement them - I don't have to deal with the consequences.
NODE f389ce6cRe: School Admins
"Ian Farquhar" <ianf@sydney.sgi.com>Sun, 27 Nov 94 22:39:02 PST
On Nov 28, 12:34am, jpb@gate.net wrote:
> How long do you think it'll be before crypt disappears, though?
What would be cute would be to roll-your-own enigma using a series of
standard Unix filters. It would seem moderately straightforward to
maintain rotor files which are fed into tr, while using cut's and
simple appends to move the rotors.
I'd like to see them go chasing anyone by removing that set of standard
Unix utilities.
Ian.
NODE eb2a7c2aRe: School Admins
David Taffs <dat@ebt.com>Mon, 28 Nov 94 10:00:27 PST
From: "Ian Farquhar" <ianf@sydney.sgi.com>:
On Nov 28, 12:34am, jpb@gate.net wrote:
> How long do you think it'll be before crypt disappears, though?
What would be cute would be to roll-your-own enigma using a series of
standard Unix filters. It would seem moderately straightforward to
maintain rotor files which are fed into tr, while using cut's and
simple appends to move the rotors.
I'd like to see them go chasing anyone by removing that set of standard
Unix utilities.
Ian.
Whotsa madder wid good ole Rot13 to foil the grepmeister? Dat otter
work jes fine...
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