NODE f3b3edd7Re: IPSP and Netscape
marca@mcom.com (Marc Andreessen) (by way of marca@mcom.com (Marc Andreessen))Tue, 13 Dec 94 00:58:54 PST
In article <199412130302.TAA00871@largo.remailer.net>, eric@remailer.net (Eric Hughes) wrote:
> ... the claims that SSL is better than anything
> else out there
I'm sorry, I don't remember such a claim being made.
> ... The original denial of IPSP's
> potential utility
Likewise, I don't recall anyone denying IPSP's potential
utility (particularly with emphasis on *potential*).
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NODE 0459408aRe: IPSP and Netscape
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Tue, 13 Dec 94 07:35:42 PST
Marc Andreessen) (by way of marca@mcom.com (Marc Andreessen) says:
> > ... The original denial of IPSP's
> > potential utility
>
> Likewise, I don't recall anyone denying IPSP's potential
> utility (particularly with emphasis on *potential*).
From what I can tell, SSL's utility is at least as *potential*.
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NODE 0c0cc90cRe: IPSP and Netscape
jamesd@netcom.com (James A. Donald)Tue, 13 Dec 94 11:53:40 PST
Eric Hughes wrote:
> > ... the claims that SSL is better than anything
> > else out there
Marc Andreessen writes
> I'm sorry, I don't remember such a claim being made.
Eric and Perry have repeatedly used this method -
not only attacking a straw man, but lying outright
that their opponent has *explicitly* proclaimed
the straw man.
I am thoroughly sick of this dishonest debating
tactic.
If someone genuinely believe his opponent assumes
or implies something that is obviously false he
should say "implies" or "assumes"
To say "claims" or "states" is to say something completely
different.
One may be a reasonable inference, as I inferred
that Chomsky sought to justify mass murder and
brutal terror. The other is a lie.
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NODE f03ec366Re: IPSP and Netscape
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Tue, 13 Dec 94 13:37:04 PST
James A. Donald says:
> Eric Hughes wrote:
> > > ... the claims that SSL is better than anything
> > > else out there
>
> Marc Andreessen writes
> > I'm sorry, I don't remember such a claim being made.
>
> Eric and Perry have repeatedly used this method -
> not only attacking a straw man, but lying outright
> that their opponent has *explicitly* proclaimed
> the straw man.
>
> I am thoroughly sick of this dishonest debating
> tactic.
We're sick of you inventing facts, but of course, you'll just claim
we've been doing that.
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