Tim May is RIGHT!!!

I'm sorry I can't say so under my real name, but I
*vehemently agree* with Tim May about the authoritarian,
heavy handed, generally outrageous egotism of Eric
Hughes of recent. This is REALLY UPSETTING. Eric should
be ASHAMED OF HIMSELF for strutting around like a 
peacock. he is EMBODYING THE DICTATORIAL APPROACH HE
CLAIMS TO DEFY VIA CYPHERPUNK PHILOSOPHY. this is
truly the most HYPOCRITICAL AND EGOMANIACAL action I 
have seen by anyone in recent times on this list.

Tim May will leave the list? GOOD FOR YOU, TIM. Get
the hell out of here. Eric Hughes may have had some
good ideas ONCE UPON A TIME but hasn't kept up his
end of the bargain of the cypherpunk agenda for a 
LONG, LONG TIME. just a WASHED-UP HAS BEEN, who defies
the very ideals that he claims to espouse in the
most dictatorial manner possible.

oh, what's this? you're just going to DELAY the messages
that don't have signatures? well, I'm sure the government
would just love to slightly DELAY THE MAIL of people who
don't have the proper ESCROWED KEYS. what's this? you
aren't going to move to any more "serious" measures, such
as actually BANNING UNSIGNED MAIL, at least, NOT YET?
oh, THANK YOU, MR. ALMIGHTY GOD OF CYBERSPACE. ah, I'm
sure Louis Freeh feels the same way---we aren't proposing
any minor change that PREVENTS YOUR FREEDOMS, are we? gosh,
the government is starting to look awfully nice in 
comparison to the TYRANNY OF A DICTATOR.

this scene is getting REALLY STALE. oh, Mr.
CYPHERPUNK FOUNDER, please tell me once again how you
started this list, and how the volumes of posts by
the public are really YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY, and this
is YOUR LIST. we are your "guests"???? BULLSHIT. any
host that treats his guests like this is NOT A HOST.
this is not graciousness but the crabby and cranky
bossiness of a STELLAR INGRATE and a EGOTISTICAL JERK.

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> I'm sorry I can't say so under my real name, but I

Heh, heh... Detweiler meets McElwaine.

Stop making me laugh, Larry.  My lips are chapped.
- -- 
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy@cybrspc.mn.org
                   "I'm a family man, model citizen."
                                      -- Warren Zevon

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(Not Very) Anonymous User wrote:

> I'm sorry I can't say so under my real name, but I
> *vehemently agree* with Tim May about the authoritarian,
> heavy handed, generally outrageous egotism of Eric
> Hughes of recent. This is REALLY UPSETTING. Eric should
> be ASHAMED OF HIMSELF for strutting around like a 
> peacock. he is EMBODYING THE DICTATORIAL APPROACH HE
> CLAIMS TO DEFY VIA CYPHERPUNK PHILOSOPHY. this is
> truly the most HYPOCRITICAL AND EGOMANIACAL action I 
> have seen by anyone in recent times on this list.

Note that I have made no such claims. While I don't like the sound of
the proposal, for various reasons, and while I didn't care for the "If
Eric says it is so, then it is so" sycophancy, I can't find any
evidence that Eric was strutting around like a peacock, etc.

> Tim May will leave the list? GOOD FOR YOU, TIM. Get
> the hell out of here. Eric Hughes may have had some

This is unlikely, as it sounds like the worst-case version of the
proposal has been shelved.

I happen to think that this "flame war," as some have characterizied
it, has made more apparent the difficulties many on the list (perhaps
most, as the Silent Majority is probably not in a better position, it
seems to me) have in routinely signing posts. I like the "under oath"
points Mike Duvos made today.

Rishab suggested we should talk about other things. Well, nothing is
stopping folks from doint so. I take the heated debate about this
"sign or else" to be a sign of health; at least some topics can still
generate furious debate.

--Tim May


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