NODE 3e836bebCrypto Declaration of Independance
nobody@jpunix.com (Anonymous)Mon, 12 Dec 94 01:08:10 PST
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I have a proposal for you all.
I have started work on a Crypto Declaration of Independence, based on the
famous American work which represents Independence. With the incoming
batch of Congress and the new year approaching, I think that it's time
we assert what we believe in. We need to let people know what we stand
for, and why we think it's a good idea. And with the (quasi)-recent
passage of the DigiTel proposal and Freeh's comments about banning
encryption, we need to wake people up.
However, asserting this to ourselves again would be akin to holding a
one-person conference. We have rehashed these points amongst ourselves
many times. Therefore, I propose that we spend some time revising this
work, based off the writing I will post if there is support for this idea,
then sign it, and email, fax and mail it to our respective news agencies,
government officials and interest groups. However, without your support,
this endeavor would be fruitless. Before I post the "beta version"/first
draft of the CDoI (for lack of a better term), I want to know if you (the
C'punks) will support it and help me.
Overall, I'm looking for answers to four questions:
1) Will you support and help this endeavor.
2) A target date for sending it out.
First idea which came to mind: Jan 1st, 1995
3) A list of groups/people which should receive it.
Government officials, news agencies, HOTtired, CPSR, EFF, ACLU, etc
and along with #3:
4) Ways for bringing it to people's attention.
I intend to keep myself anonymous during this process, so please contact me
by leaving a message on this list, or mailing everything within these
cutmarks to remailer@jpunix.com:
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NODE 52bb65f1Re: Crypto Declaration of Independance
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Mon, 12 Dec 94 08:55:12 PST
Anonymous says:
> I have started work on a Crypto Declaration of Independence, based on the
> famous American work which represents Independence.
Yup, just what we need -- more foaming at the mouth.
Anyone interested in doing real work is encouraged to read the current
internet drafts concerning the security multiparts extension to MIME,
the security extensions to the DNS, or the work on security headers
for IPv6 and IPSP (the equivalent of the v6 work for v4).
.pm
NODE cbf47a86Re: Crypto Declaration of Independance
jamesd@netcom.com (James A. Donald)Mon, 12 Dec 94 12:14:04 PST
Perry E. Metzger writes
> Yup, just what we need -- more foaming at the mouth.
I seem to recall that on the extropians list you did
your fair share of foaming at the mouth.
While it is true that getting security working and
stardardized is right now a more urgent and more
difficult task than foaming at the mouth, nonetheless
more foaming at the mouth will be needed by and by.
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NODE c73f973eRe: Crypto Declaration of Independance
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Mon, 12 Dec 94 12:57:55 PST
James A. Donald says:
> While it is true that getting security working and
> stardardized is right now a more urgent and more
> difficult task than foaming at the mouth, nonetheless
> more foaming at the mouth will be needed by and by.
To what end?
Perhaps strong logical argumentation is worthwhile. What is the point
of useless rants that will never be read?
.pm
NODE 923188dcRe: Crypto Declaration of Independance
jamesd@netcom.com (James A. Donald)Mon, 12 Dec 94 13:17:46 PST
Anonymous writes
> I have a proposal for you all.
>
> I have started work on a Crypto Declaration of Independence, based on the
> famous American work which represents Independence.
This is unwise and unnecessary.
It is unwise because we do not wish to alert the government
to the fact that the net is largely ungoverned and ungovernable.
It is unnecessary because crypto is already covered by various
existing declarations on rights.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law [...]
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the
right of the people peaceably to assemble,[...]
Amendment II
[...] the right of the people to keep and bear
arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated,[...]
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our
property, because of the kind of animals that we James A. Donald
are. True law derives from this right, not from
the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. jamesd@netcom.com