NODE 8cf41ab9Doomsaying, development, and deployment
"Amanda Walker" <amanda@intercon.com>Sun, 18 Dec 94 17:53:15 PST
A number of people have been saying things that amount to "imminent death of
the Cypherpunks mailing list predicted, film at 11." Well, folks, if it dies,
it will be the fault of those who just pick up their toys and go home.
There's been a fair amount of discontent here in the the last year. I don't
think it's a matter of any one flameful discussion (of which many have gone by
recently). Rather, I think it's a matter of frustration. PGP has acheived a
fair amount of recognition in the user community at large, and lately even in
the mainstream press. However, beyond PGP and some anonymous remailers,
there's not a lot else out there.
There won't *be* anything unless we build it. No one's going to come riding
in on his white horse to hand us crypto-security.
We all agree we need better tools, and that everyone else needs better tools
before they'll start adopting the technology we so fiercely believe can save
us from the erosion of our civil liberty and personal privacy.
So let's build those tools. Strange as it may seem, I actually have to weigh
in on the side of Netscape in some of the arguments that have come by in the
last week or so. They are building stuff, after all. That's better than most
of the people on this list, from what I can tell.
To put my money where my mouth is, I'll shut up completely until I can post an
announcement of some useful crypto tool. It might be commercial, but it might
be free--my employer does occasionally agree to give stuff away for the good
of the Internet.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
NODE 0a7a3fb7Re: Doomsaying, development, and deployment
sdw@lig.net (Stephen D. Williams)Sun, 18 Dec 94 21:32:07 PST
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> So let's build those tools. Strange as it may seem, I actually have to weigh
> in on the side of Netscape in some of the arguments that have come by in the
> last week or so. They are building stuff, after all. That's better than most
> of the people on this list, from what I can tell.
How about starting a todo list so we can reach a consensus on a
prioritized list of goals. This may help us come up with projects
we can work together on. I'm itching to do some coding...
> To put my money where my mouth is, I'll shut up completely until I can post an
> announcement of some useful crypto tool. It might be commercial, but it might
> be free--my employer does occasionally agree to give stuff away for the good
> of the Internet.
>
>
>
> Amanda Walker
> InterCon Systems Corporation
sdw
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