Re: THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS

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At 8:44 AM 12/13/94, Sandy Sandfort wrote:

>Police are public officials.  As such, they have no right to
>privacy *with respect to their public acts*.  When off duty, cops
>have the same right as other citizens to privacy in their private
>lives.  I said my proposal was "anti- *bad* cop" and that it
>would benefit good cops.  Do I need to say that it would only
>benefit good cops in the line of duty?  It would be bad for
>anyone--cops or civilians--in their private lives.
>
>Employees represent an intermediate position.  If an employer is
>foolish enough to require that employees be wired, 'sokay with
>me.  For most employees in most jobs, it would not be acceptable.
>I think they would get jobs with less intrusive employers.  Some
>employers will wire some employees, whether or not the police are
>wired.  Wiring the cops is a good idea; arguments about wiring
>employees and citizens are nothing more than red herrings used to
>avoid addressing the real issue of police accountability.

Arguably discussions about police abuses are red herrings used to avoid
addressing the real issue of workplace monitoring. :-)

I really don't want to know how many sips it takes an officer to finish a cup of
coffee, or if the officer has a genital itch problem while sitting in a speed
trap.  I think this crosses the line.

And where do we stop?  Do we wire other federal employees?  Does the secretary
for a research group in the FDA need to be wired?  It would be a short jump from
this to private sector use, which I do oppose.  Not everyone has the ability to
pick and choose employment.

This has wandered a bit off of Cryptological relevence.  I don't plan to reply
publically to this thread anymore, although I may do so privately.

Bob
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C'punks,

I'm coming to you through the magic of telnet.  Boy, am I swimming in the 
deep end.  I haven't even figured out how to download, compose offline, 
upload and transmit.  I'll figure that out tomorrow.  In the mean time:

On Wed, 14 Dec 1994, Bob Snyder wrote:

> ...
> I really don't want to know how many sips it takes an officer to finish a cup of
> coffee, or if the officer has a genital itch problem while sitting in a speed
> trap.  I think this crosses the line.

I don't want to know either, so I'll just ignore that part.  Feel free to 
do the same.

> And where do we stop?  Do we wire other federal employees?...

Good suggestion, Bob.


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