Re: The Remailer Crisis

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At 01:14 AM 1/19/95 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote:

>* I favor separating the "account that remails" from the "owner of the
>site," as I have argued in vain in the past. (Example: a willing site
>gives out or sells many accounts...each is legally separate, and each
>must be legally challenged. My longer posts dealt with this.)

I offer to pay for and operate a remailer account on any system that will
have me.

Do we have the software yet to run a remailer out of an account?

>It's time to get cracking on this crisis.

The Cable companies may come to our rescue.  Even old fuddy-duddy
Cablevision is going to be offering connections this year.  If those
connections are characterised merely as physical connections, that could
offer legal protections.

My contrib for now will be to draft an all purpose response letter to
respond to civilian and official complaints concerning remailer abuse.

DCF

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From: frissell@panix.com (Duncan Frissell)

   I offer to pay for and operate a remailer account on any system that will
   have me.

best.com, based in Mt. View, CA.  Mail to postmaster@best.com, or try
the other standard extensions.

I'm sure there are others.

   Do we have the software yet to run a remailer out of an account?

When I wrote the first cypherpunk remailer, this was a design
criterion.  In other words, yes.

Eric

>    From: frissell@panix.com (Duncan Frissell)
> 
>    I offer to pay for and operate a remailer account on any system that will
>    have me.
> 
> best.com, based in Mt. View, CA.  Mail to postmaster@best.com, or try
> the other standard extensions.

As it happens, I just signed up for a SLIP account at Best.  I'm using
their standard dial-up service, but they also offer a dedicated 28.8
connection for $450 setup and $60/mo.


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> 
>    From: frissell@panix.com (Duncan Frissell)
> 
>    I offer to pay for and operate a remailer account on any system that will
>    have me.
> 
> best.com, based in Mt. View, CA.  Mail to postmaster@best.com, or try
> the other standard extensions.
> 
> I'm sure there are others.
> 

	To my knowledge there exists 3 packages which allow you to run
a remailer out of an account. Matt Ghio's remailer, mixmaster (Lance
Cottrell?), and the simple package available on ftp.csua.berkeley.edu,
which derives from Eric and Hal's original code.

	c2.org, of course, welcomes remailers.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 1995, sameer wrote:

> 	To my knowledge there exists 3 packages which allow you to run
> a remailer out of an account. Matt Ghio's remailer, mixmaster (Lance
> Cottrell?), and the simple package available on ftp.csua.berkeley.edu,
> which derives from Eric and Hal's original code.

Can anyone give an overview of the remailer packages that are currently
available?  What features and differences do they have, and where to get
them?

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> 	c2.org, of course, welcomes remailers.

Care to provide some details?

Thanks, Don

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Apologies to the list...mailer put in a cc: I didn't notice.

> > 	c2.org, of course, welcomes remailers.
> 
> Care to provide some details?

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