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Even more unix holy war. Was "Clinton freezes U.S. assets .."

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NODE 44af2258Even more unix holy war. Was "Clinton freezes U.S. assets .."
And did I mention that in DOS you can type 
   rename *.txt *.asc
to turn all *.txt files into the corresponding *.asc file

but that if in unix you type
   mv *.txt *.asc
not only will it not rename your *.txt files to be *.asc files, but
if you have only two *.txt files it will silently destroy the
second and issue no warning that anything has gone amiss.

Hell, it is only the users data -- stupid user, he can type
it in again.

And of course I have already mentioned the unix "make" utility.

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NODE 005c5b94Re: Even more unix holy war. Was "Clinton freezes U.S. assets .."
jamesd@com.informix.com says:
> And did I mention that in DOS you can type 
>    rename *.txt *.asc
> to turn all *.txt files into the corresponding *.asc file
> 
> but that if in unix you type
>    mv *.txt *.asc
> not only will it not rename your *.txt files to be *.asc files, but
> if you have only two *.txt files it will silently destroy the
> second and issue no warning that anything has gone amiss.

In Unix, I can use a single command to delete an entire file tree --
rm -r. In DOS, I have to delete each directory by hand.

This isn't how you evaluate these things, James.

> And of course I have already mentioned the unix "make" utility.

DOS doesn't even have a make utility -- perhaps you should do without
using make ever again, as DOS is obviously superior.

Perry
NODE a0918aa4Re: Even more unix holy war. Was "Clinton freezes U.S. assets .."
On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> In Unix, I can use a single command to delete an entire file tree --
> rm -r. In DOS, I have to delete each directory by hand.

Use the command deltree /y.  Or any of the cool third party
utilities, or the windows file manager which offers a true
hierarchical view unlike the hierarchical view offered by
the sun OS file manager.

> DOS doesn't even have a make utility -- perhaps you should do without
> using make ever again, as DOS is obviously superior.

I wonder how I have been compiling my files all these years.

I use make and nmake to do any non procedural task in DOS that
involves file dates and file existence, not just to compile files.

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"James A. Donald" says:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > In Unix, I can use a single command to delete an entire file tree --
> > rm -r. In DOS, I have to delete each directory by hand.
> 
> Use the command deltree /y.

It didn't exist until recently. Neither did utilities for moving
around files or directories.

> Or any of the cool third party
> utilities, or the windows file manager which offers a true
> hierarchical view unlike the hierarchical view offered by
> the sun OS file manager.

Oooh, sorry. You don't get to have it both ways. If you can talk about
third party utilities, then I get to point out that there are dozens
of cool third party file browsers. If I don't get to talk about third
party software, then you don't either.

> > DOS doesn't even have a make utility -- perhaps you should do without
> > using make ever again, as DOS is obviously superior.
> 
> I wonder how I have been compiling my files all these years.

With make from third parties. If you want make on unix to do something
different, you can just get the sources (for free usually) and get it
do do anything you like.

And guess, by the way, where make was invented -- hint: not Microsoft.

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