NODE fefab3b7US News and World Report
Nathan Zook <nzook@bga.com>Mon, 23 Jan 95 16:23:48 PST
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I just looked over an article in US News and World Report today. The cover
was a badge with the words "Cyber Cops" on it. Guess which article I
scanned.
"Is Anything Safe in Cyberspace?"
I think it came over okay. Quoted Chaum, mentioned the positive uses of
remailers, had an extensive sections on privacy and on free speech. It
was somewhat sympathetic to Clipper, didn't really take the protests
seriously. Mentioned anonymous ecash. It also had a quote skewering the
highway metiphore, "It's organic".
This was all after the four horsemen were trotted out, in all their glory.
If anyone looked at only the first six inches, it sounded like an attack on
the net as a whole.
I'ld give it a 4 on an objective scale, 7 compared to what we expect.
Finger or request keyserver for PGP 2.6.2 (tm) key.
PGP<->Mail/News installation incomplete.
Factors for modulous are not proven primes. Key may be far weaker than
expected. Encode your own risk.
Key ID: 14712B4D 1994/12/26 Nathan H. Zook <nzook@bga.coKey fingerprint
= 44 B3 D8 66 3D 55 1E 2E F8 92 22 A6 33 8C DE 24
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2
iQEVAwUBLyRiMHmgMs8UcStNAQE0jQf+PoZWpuN5y8mDfpvn7g1eiJs6uHI+7DqM
lS63jgQs5zE4Nfk7yXCyhh9HY7qx8T2P4TvRUBGFGZk74+9ANg54GopBDLWYEwFM
eNgheMg1w/iF6kyrEyPBLS3QaphfjDgknf6ohBv6qx/ZOJ7N10iWW06eu5O/H9Se
YDk6RvUzz7niyknGG1kO3aTqTqQ3tSG21FRktV7gbUeayLCLdhQKD7bowZkClR6Z
KJ2gVvu7dmNczpsMYleZjOD2p9rSsMKoL42rJykbJRwHunJhF8hgaUnq8P7frmea
xJ8YlcrrI+rwY5mNb6ylNR/KLNvV+rd17IZjE/+3xaPEM+s04dy1Rw==
=WAub
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
NODE 63008bd2Re: US News and World Report
slowdog <slowdog@chewy.wookie.net>Mon, 23 Jan 95 18:31:26 PST
On Mon, 23 Jan 1995, Nathan Zook wrote:
> This was all after the four horsemen were trotted out, in all their glory.
> If anyone looked at only the first six inches, it sounded like an attack on
> the net as a whole.
>
> I'ld give it a 4 on an objective scale, 7 compared to what we expect.
I just read this piece the other day. Had people from FLETC talking about
people being "victimized by information" and included lines that
doublespeaked supporting freedom of speech while asking what types of
speech should be made illegal, making these two contradictory ideas seem
perfectly compatible and natural.
- dog
NODE 6a85f0cdDoublespeak, Doublethink, Thought Police, and 1984
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Mon, 23 Jan 95 22:23:44 PST
slowdog wrote:
> I just read this piece the other day. Had people from FLETC talking about
> people being "victimized by information" and included lines that
> doublespeaked supporting freedom of speech while asking what types of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> speech should be made illegal, making these two contradictory ideas seem
> perfectly compatible and natural.
Slowdog is exactly right! This whole debate we're seeing is a perfect
example of "doublethink," in which two opposing ideas are held in
one's head at the same time, eventually eroding all principles
(so that if four fingers are held up, but the State says "five," then
it really _is_ five fingers being held up).
I first read "1984" in around 1966, when I was in the 8th grade, and
it has stuck with me ever since. No other novel has added as many
basic linguistic and political ideas to the language as this novel--by
yet another member of the Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories!
Big Brother, Thought Police, thoughtcrime, doublespeak, doublethink,
Big Brother is Watching You!, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery,
sexcrime, unperson, and probably several other terms I've left
out. All are part of our language.
Too bad people on both the left and the right are missing the lesson.
Any Cypherpunk who hasn't read this novel should run out tonight to
the All-Nite Barnes and Borders Megastore and buy a copy.
--Tim May, Citizen-Unit 227-80-5894
--
..........................................................................
Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
| knowledge, reputations, information markets,
W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments.
Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
Cypherpunks list: majordomo@toad.com with body message of only:
subscribe cypherpunks. FAQ available at ftp.netcom.com in pub/tc/tcmay
NODE cf9b6d3bRe: Doublespeak, Doublethink, Thought Police, and 1984
chen@intuit.com (Mark Chen)Wed, 25 Jan 95 16:10:31 PST
> I first read "1984" in around 1966, when I was in the 8th grade, and
> it has stuck with me ever since. No other novel has added as many
> basic linguistic and political ideas to the language as this novel--by
> yet another member of the Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories!
>
> Big Brother, Thought Police, thoughtcrime, doublespeak, doublethink,
> Big Brother is Watching You!, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery,
> sexcrime, unperson, and probably several other terms I've left
> out. All are part of our language.
>
> Too bad people on both the left and the right are missing the lesson.
>
> Any Cypherpunk who hasn't read this novel should run out tonight to
> the All-Nite Barnes and Borders Megastore and buy a copy.
And while you're at it, you might want to take a look at Orwell's
classic essay, "Politics and the English Language."
--
Mark Chen
chen@intuit.com
415/329-6913
finger for PGP public key
D4 99 54 2A 98 B1 48 0C CF 95 A5 B0 6E E0 1E 1D