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Scientologys Attempts

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NODE 93acee74Scientologys Attempts
I just had a view into the alt.religion.scientology and
alt.clearing.technology newsgroups. There are some messages
about a Scientology decision to shut down every internet traffic
about Scientology. If the messages are true, Scientology sent 
rmgroup Control messages to remove the groups. 

The request to stop the remailers seems to come from the
same people...

Hadmut
NODE ac26a77fRe: Scientologys Attempts
On Mon, 16 Jan 1995, Hadmut Danisch wrote:

> 
> I just had a view into the alt.religion.scientology and
> alt.clearing.technology newsgroups. There are some messages
> about a Scientology decision to shut down every internet traffic
> about Scientology. If the messages are true, Scientology sent 
> rmgroup Control messages to remove the groups. 
> 
> The request to stop the remailers seems to come from the
> same people...
> 
After reading the lawyer's threatening letter I tried to check out the 
two newsgroups mentioned, and was told they do not exist.  (This is not a 
local filter here; Eskimo does not censor newsgroups.)  So have they been 
deleted?  If so, by whom and how? What is 'rmgroup' and who has the 
authority to remove alt. groups?

Charles Bell
NODE 45adf384Re: Scientologys Attempts
On Tue, 17 Jan 1995, Charles Bell wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jan 1995, Hadmut Danisch wrote:

> > I just had a view into the alt.religion.scientology and
> > alt.clearing.technology newsgroups. There are some messages
> > about a Scientology decision to shut down every internet traffic
> > about Scientology. If the messages are true, Scientology sent 
> > rmgroup Control messages to remove the groups. 
> > 
> > The request to stop the remailers seems to come from the
> > same people...

> After reading the lawyer's threatening letter I tried to check out the 
> two newsgroups mentioned, and was told they do not exist.  (This is not a 
> local filter here; Eskimo does not censor newsgroups.)  So have they been 
> deleted?  If so, by whom and how? What is 'rmgroup' and who has the 
> authority to remove alt. groups?

An 'rmgroup' is a control message used by Usenet when a group needs to be 
removed globally.  Etiquette suggests that only big, important people 
should send these out, but technically anyone can send one.

I followed the Scientology debate with little interest until yesterday, 
when I fired up my newsreader and was asked "Subscribe to new group 
alt.religion.scientology?"  At that point, I knew that the real war had 
begun. :-)

From what I was able to ascertain here, an rmgroup was sent out, followed 
soon after by a newgroup (or two or three or...).  My news server doesn't 
honor newgroups in the alt hierarchy automatically as a rule, but did so 
in this case for some reason.

News server: news.cso.uiuc.edu, on the University of Illinois 
Urbana-Champaign campus.

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