Re: UMich student arrested for rape story

> 
> The July `94 issue of Harper's described the case of a Menlo Park city 
> employee who claimed in 1993 to be harassed by some paintings of female nudes
> hanging in a hallway. The city removed the paintings the following day. It
> used to be that when the majority of people in some state/county/town 
> disapproved of some instance of expression, they could suppress it. This was
> bad. Nowadays, it takes just one zealot to suppress it. This is much worse.
> As far as I can see, anyone can claim to be harassed/threatened/offended by
> just about anything, and get away with it.  Just the other day, I heard that
> in Vermont (or was it New Hampshire ?), they're still talking seriously about
> an amendment to the state constitution against burning the U.S. flag. Between
> the censors on the left and the censors on the right, there's precious little
> room remaining for those of us in the middle who believe in tolerating
> divergent views.
> 
Toleration of divergent views is not one of those issues that breaks 
out well along left-right polarities.  E.g., Andrea Dworkin's closest 
aliies on porn are on the xtian right, not among her fellow radical 
feminists [contrary to the image promoted in some mass media].  
Threats to Catcher in the Rye in libraries are far more common than 
incidents like the one in Menlo Park.

> > Violence against women is too real, 
> 
> Strongly agreed, but a newsgroup article is not an act of violence.
> 
Legally, that's a question yet to be resolved.

In any case, this is hardly cyrpto-related.  I would far rather lurk 
as the mathematicians discuss factoring.  I learn more [even if I 
only get one word in three :-]


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Rich Dutcher, San Francisco Greens
P.O. Box 77005, San Francisco, California 94107 USA

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves."
                          Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars"

Greens, of course, only enslave plants - so weed-whackers work better than cops ...
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On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Richard F. Dutcher wrote:
 
> In any case, this is hardly cyrpto-related.  I would far rather lurk 
> as the mathematicians discuss factoring.  I learn more [even if I 
> only get one word in three :-]

I am sick to the back teeth of people writing "This is not cryto related,
so I should be allowed to have last word."

This is irritating, offensive, and hypocritical.

In addition the claims you make are entirely false, but I wont rebut
them because you have wandered considerably further from crypto and
privacy than did the post that you are replying to.

> 
> "That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves."
>                           Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars"

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On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, James A. Donald wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Richard F. Dutcher wrote:
> > In any case, this is hardly cyrpto-related.  I would far rather lurk 
> > as the mathematicians discuss factoring.  I learn more [even if I 
> > only get one word in three :-]
> 
> I am sick to the back teeth of people writing "This is not cryto related,
> so I should be allowed to have last word."
> 
> This is irritating, offensive, and hypocritical.
> 
> In addition the claims you make are entirely false, but I wont rebut
> them because you have wandered considerably further from crypto and
> privacy than did the post that you are replying to.
> 

And besides, you wanted the last word...

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