NODE b6c50bc6Re: MIME based remailing commands
Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@nsb.fv.com>Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:00:01 PST
Excerpts from mail: 10-Feb-95 Re: MIME based remailing co.. Rick
Busdiecker@lehman.c (1667)
> If you start your header name with X-, then you are conforming that
> gross, ugly atrocity that is MIME. And yet, by using headers rather
> than TGUATIM, you help to preserve sanity and avoid that vast majority
> of MIME slime.
Well, I have no idea why you think that MIME is an "atrocity" or
"slime", but it is perfectly clear that you have no idea what it
actually *is*, since "X-" headers have nothing whatsoever to do with
MIME. The "X-" headers are defined by RFC 822, which has been the
standard for Internet mail formats since 1982.
Perhaps you should learn what MIME is before you embarass yourself
further. -- Nathaniel
NODE 5f37c995Re: MIME based remailing commands
Rick Busdiecker <rfb@lehman.com>Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:33:25 PST
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:58:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@nsb.fv.com>
Well, I have no idea why you think that MIME is an "atrocity" or
"slime", but it is perfectly clear that you have no idea what it
actually *is*, since "X-" headers have nothing whatsoever to do with
MIME. The "X-" headers are defined by RFC 822, which has been the
standard for Internet mail formats since 1982.
You base a large conclusion on a small piece of data in combination
with some poor duduction. Unless you are claiming that MIME violates
RFC 822 with respect to the handling of X- headers you have made a
number of false claims in the paragraph above.
Perhaps you should learn what MIME is before you embarass yourself
further.
Unless it has changed radically in the 6 months since I read all of
the RFCs that were then available (I believe that rtfm.mit.edu was my
source at the time), then I have already taken the step that you
suggest -- in fact, it is largely what caused me to form the opinions
that I have with respect to MIME. It is possible for someone to find
ugliness where you find beauty without them necessarily being
uninformed.
I must admit that Perry's references to secure multi-parts make me
think that another review is in order. I'm certainly not an expert,
but then nothing in what was readily available provided much
encouragement for further exploration. However, I have learned enough
of what MIME is that I am not embarrased by your incorrect inferences.
Rick