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Re: S314 and potential hell-raising

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NODE 4637f156Re: S314 and potential hell-raising
>enlisting the ACLU, the EFF, and any other group potentially willing
>to pour money into a legal battle.


Fuck the EFF, they already lost they're place in importance. The ACLU is a very good
place to start however. Ideas??

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NODE ea95ead7Re: S314 and potential hell-raising
The ACLU (aslong with us and numerous other groups) are all very aware of 
S. 314. I briefed the Telecommunications policy Roundtable, which is over 
100 public interest groups interested in telecom policy, about it last 
week and we are all gearing up to nail this sucker to the wall before it 
is included in  the telecom bill. If you havent called and screamed at 
your senator and congresscritter, do so now already (202) 224-3121.

-d
NODE f787f6deRe: S314 and potential hell-raising
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In article <v0151011cab5f38526c94@[152.97.12.101]>, you wrote:
> >enlisting the ACLU, the EFF, and any other group potentially willing
> >to pour money into a legal battle.
>
>
> Fuck the EFF, they already lost they're place in importance. The ACLU is a very good
> place to start however. Ideas??

There are going to be a lot of factions involved with this one. Some
desirable, some not. (I leave it up to the individual to make the
judgment) Maybe we can learn something from the military and apply c3
(Command, Control and Communications) to this. Set up a forum for
coordinating efforts, delegate tasks, most important communicate so we
don't waste resources on redundant efforts. The religious right has
successfully been doing this for years. Perhaps a dose of their own medicine
is in order. Anyone care to create a newsgroup? ;)


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NODE 63b786afRe: S314 and potential hell-raising
On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Samuel Kaplin wrote:

> There are going to be a lot of factions involved with this one. Some
> desirable, some not. (I leave it up to the individual to make the
> judgment) Maybe we can learn something from the military and apply c3
> (Command, Control and Communications) to this. Set up a forum for
> coordinating efforts, delegate tasks, most important communicate so we
> don't waste resources on redundant efforts. The religious right has
> successfully been doing this for years. Perhaps a dose of their own medicine
> is in order. Anyone care to create a newsgroup? ;)

It's coming, soon. Keep your eyes peeled for an announcement.


- dog
NODE eaade61eRe: S314 and potential hell-raising
>   >enlisting the ACLU, the EFF, and any other group potentially willing
>   >to pour money into a legal battle.

>   Fuck the EFF, they already lost they're place in importance. The ACLU is 
>   a very good place to start however. Ideas??

there's room for another organization I think. there are, in my opinion,
two reasons why the NRA is as effective as it is: it has a single issue
that it concerns itself with and it never compromises.

so what, in very few words and as clearly as possible, is our issue?

josh
NODE 84d81570Re: S314 and potential hell-raising
On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, joshua geller wrote:

> there's room for another organization I think. there are, in my opinion,
> two reasons why the NRA is as effective as it is: it has a single issue
> that it concerns itself with and it never compromises.
> 
> so what, in very few words and as clearly as possible, is our issue?

I don't know what your issue is, but a small group of people are at the 
moment formulating the beginnings of a new "group" of sorts with a very 
specific agenda in mind.

Which is an utterly obscure and non-descriptive thing to say. But hold 
on. We should have an initial announcement ready, I hope, shortly.


- dog