Re: "S1" encryption system (was: this looked like it might be interesting)

On Aug 10, 12:02pm, David G. Koontz wrote:
> Subject: Re: "S1" encryption system (was: this looked like it might be int
> >Jon writes:
> >> Two other possibilities: (1) It's merely an independently produced 
> >> cryptosystem disguised as a "leak" to save its creator the trouble of 
> >> asking experts to analyze it for him/her.  
> 
> >It strikes me as rather foolish to mail off anonymous copies to several
> >individual recipients (Matt, Perry, Tim, ...) in addition to the list, if
> >S1 is a real leak. Why aid the traffic analysts by firing off multiple
> >messages through the remailers ?
> 
> A third possibility comes to mind, that person or persons associated with
> the list are using the post to focus on cryptographic efforts in lieu of
> political or apocalyptic diatribes.
how about a fourth possibility:  the government ___ agency did it.

this was done to achieve two goals:
	1) make cypherpunks easy to villify (look at all of the nasty crypto
		stuff being passed to foreign nationals)
	2) a quick estimate of cypherpunks' ability to analyze an algorithm

am i being too paranoid?  probably, but you tell me :-).

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George A. Corondan (corondan@eng.eds.com) wrote:

> > >It strikes me as rather foolish to mail off anonymous copies to several
> > >individual recipients (Matt, Perry, Tim, ...) in addition to the list, if
> > >S1 is a real leak. Why aid the traffic analysts by firing off multiple
> > >messages through the remailers ?
> > 
> > A third possibility comes to mind, that person or persons associated with
> > the list are using the post to focus on cryptographic efforts in lieu of
> > political or apocalyptic diatribes.

> how about a fourth possibility:  the government ___ agency did it.

Can't play that game too much or you'll be in a padded room somewhere, 
probably a Federal mental hospital with no name..... ;-)

> this was done to achieve two goals:

> 	1) make cypherpunks easy to villify (look at all of the nasty crypto
> 		stuff being passed to foreign nationals)

> 	2) a quick estimate of cypherpunks' ability to analyze an algorithm

I'd say it was trashed in under 5 messages.

 > am i being too paranoid?  probably, but you tell me :-).

If the algorythim is compiled, supplied with a key and decrypts skipjack
/clipper/bubbaheres then you know it's real.


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