NODE 457e0c48SSL challenge -- broken !
Damien.Doligez@inria.fr (Damien Doligez)Wed, 16 Aug 95 01:42:51 PDT
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SSL challenge -- broken
This is to announce the solution of the SSL challenge posted by Hal
Finney on July 17, 1995 (message-ID: <3u6kmg$pm4@jobe.shell.portal.com>),
also found at: <URL:http://www.portal.com/~hfinney/sslchal.html>
The 40-bit secret part of the key is 7e f0 96 1f a6. I found it by a brute
force search on a network of about 120 workstations and a few parallel
computers at INRIA, Ecole Polytechnique, and ENS. The key was found after
scanning a little more than half the key space in 8 days.
The cleartext of the encrypted data is as follows:
The SERVER-VERIFY message is:
9C B1 C7 83 D9 BB B7 75 01 6F 19 19 03 58 EC 05 MAC-DATA
05 MSG-SERVER-VERIFY
AF 84 A7 79 F8 13 69 20 25 9B 53 A0 60 AE 75 51 CHALLENGE
The CHALLENGE part is a copy of the challenge sent by the client in its
first message.
The answer is the CLIENT-FINISHED message:
22 BB 23 39 55 B0 7F B6 1A B0 35 85 F7 DB C1 E5 MAC-DATA
03 MSG-CLIENT-FINISHED
BF EB 90 F8 2C 0C E1 EA 18 AC 11 4C 83 14 21 B6 CONNECTION-ID
The next message is SERVER-FINISHED:
D4 CD F3 4E 38 F1 2B 1E DC FD 72 C8 34 02 CD FF MAC-DATA
06 SERVER-FINISHED-BYTE
23 1C 05 40 60 72 49 6E 83 BA D1 28 CC 9B 5F 63 SESSION-ID-DATA
Then comes the data message sent by the client. This is the juicy one.
I have broken the contents into its fields (the body was just one long
line)
72 23 B5 98 0D D0 07 1A DA F1 C7 A4 40 41 5A 10 MAC-DATA
POST /order2.cgi HTTP/1.0
Referer: https://order.netscape.com/order2.cgi
User-Agent: Mozilla/1.1N (Macintosh; I; PPC)
Accept: */*
Accept: image/gif
Accept: image/x-xbitmap
Accept: image/jpeg
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 472
source-form=order2-cust.html&
order_number=31770&
prod_80-01020-00_Mac=1&
carrier_code=UM&
ship_first=Cosmic&
ship_last=Kumquat&
ship_org=SSL+Trusters+Inc.&
ship_addr1=1234+Squeamish+Ossifrage+Road&
ship_addr2=&
ship_city=Anywhere&
ship_state=NY&
ship_zip=12345&
ship_country=USA&
ship_phone=&
ship_fax=&
ship_email=&
bill_first=&
bill_last=&
bill_org=&
bill_addr1=&
bill_addr2=&
bill_city=&
bill_state=&
bill_zip=&
bill_country=USA&
bill_phone=&
bill_fax=&
bill_email=&
submit=+Submit+Customer+Data+
This order came from Mr Cosmic Kumquat, SSL Trusters Inc.,
1234 Squeamish Ossifrage Road, Anywhere, NY 12345 (USA).
Unfortunately, Mr Kumquat forgot to give his phone number, and the
server's reply (in two packets) is:
09 12 AD FE A5 A9 BF D1 8C 8C E2 6A A3 48 B9 75 MAC-DATA
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Netscape-Commerce/1.1
Date: Wednesday, 12-Jul-95 05:40:30 GMT
Content-type: text/html
1C CD C4 3D 80 F1 7B 94 11 AC E8 72 B1 99 BC FA MAC-DATA
<TITLE>Error</TITLE><H1>Error</H1>
The shipping address you supplied is not complete. The street address,
city, state, zip code, country and phone number are mandatory fields.
Please go back and specify the full shipping address. Thank you.
This result was found with a quick-and-dirty distributed search program,
which I wrote when I realized that the cypherpunks were going to be a few
weeks late with their collective effort. When the program was running,
it took little more than one week to find the key (it would have taken about
15 days to sweep the entire key space). I ran it on almost all the machines
I have access to, summarized in the following table:
type speed (keys/s) number notes
- --------------------------------------------------------
DEC (alpha) 18000-33000 34
DEC (MIPS) 2500-7500 11
SPARC 2000-13000 57
HP (HPPA/snake) 15000 3
Sony (R3000) 1100-4000 3
Sun 3 600 2
Sequent B8000 100 x 10 1 (1)
Multimax (NS532) 600 x 14 1 (1)
KSR 3200 x 64 1 (1) (2)
Notes:
1. These are multiprocessor machines
2. The KSR spent only about 2 days on this computation.
The total average searching speed was about 850000 keys/s,
with a maximum of 1350000 keys/s (1150000 without the KSR).
Conclusions:
* Many people have access to the amount of computing power that I used.
The exportable SSL protocol is supposed to be weak enough to be
easily broken by governments, yet strong enough to resist the attempts
of amateurs. It fails on the second count. Don't trust your credit
card number to this protocol.
* Cypherpunks write code, all right, but they shouldn't forget to run it.
I want to thank the people at INRIA, Ecole Polytechnique, and Ecole
Normale Superieure for giving their CPU time. (Most of them are on
vacation anyway...)
You can find a copy of this text at
<URL:http://pauillac.inria.fr/~doligez/ssl/announce.txt>
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NODE 6e83ca84Re: SSL challenge -- broken !
John Pettitt <jpp@software.net>Thu, 17 Aug 95 14:51:28 PDT
On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Damien Doligez wrote:
> SSL challenge -- broken
>
> Conclusions:
>
> * Many people have access to the amount of computing power that I used.
> The exportable SSL protocol is supposed to be weak enough to be
> easily broken by governments, yet strong enough to resist the attempts
> of amateurs.
Exactly
> It fails on the second count. Don't trust your credit
> card number to this protocol.
Huh? So you run on 120 workstations worth how much? to steal a credit
card number worth how much? Get real - there are hundreds of ways
to get credit card numbers that cost less. The idea is to make
breaking SSL less attractive than dumpster diving not to make it
impossible. I'll lay odds that I could get the credit card number
of *any* individual in the US in less elapsed time and with nothing
more than a $1000 windoze machinei, a telephone and a modem.
John Pettitt
jpp@software.net
NODE f1bf4b12Re: SSL challenge -- broken !
panzer@dhp.com (Panzer Boy)Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:34:08 PDT
John Pettitt (jpp@software.net) wrote:
: Huh? So you run on 120 workstations worth how much? to steal a credit
: card number worth how much? Get real - there are hundreds of ways
: to get credit card numbers that cost less. The idea is to make
: breaking SSL less attractive than dumpster diving not to make it
: impossible. I'll lay odds that I could get the credit card number
: of *any* individual in the US in less elapsed time and with nothing
: more than a $1000 windoze machinei, a telephone and a modem.
I'll ignore the offer to gamble due to agreeing with you. However, your
comparision to dumpster diving is kinda weak. People everytday use
thousands of dollars worth of computer equipment to download pictures from
select newsgroups. They have spent couple grand to be able to download
and veiw these pictures on their screens. Now if you told them that they
could just mail order some videos, magazines or the like, they'ld tell
you it's "easier" their way.
Many people have access to piles and piles of computer horsepower.
People without that will still do dumpster diving, but bored sys-admins,
college students, college-professors, office workers, etc will still have
easy access to this type of computing power.
The problem also lays in the fact that people are led to believe that
their information is safe against most attacks, when it's obvious that
this information is only safe for a very short time.
Has anyone thought about starting up a distributed rc4 cracking web.
Send in your message to a web server form, it will then spawn of requests
to a pool of machines willing to try cracking rc4 for you. Allow anyone
to offer up spare cycles towards the effort.
--
-Matt (panzer@dhp.com) DI-1-9026
"That which can never be enforced should not be prohibited."
NODE 8d4a9e3cRe: SSL challenge -- broken !
David Neal <dneal@usis.com>Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:50:52 PDT
On 18 Aug 1995, Panzer Boy wrote:
> John Pettitt (jpp@software.net) wrote:
> : Huh? So you run on 120 workstations worth how much? to steal a credit
> : card number worth how much? Get real - there are hundreds of ways
> : to get credit card numbers that cost less.
>
> Has anyone thought about starting up a distributed rc4 cracking web.
> Send in your message to a web server form, it will then spawn of requests
> to a pool of machines willing to try cracking rc4 for you. Allow anyone
> to offer up spare cycles towards the effort.
>
I suggested that very thing just yesterday in the list, but my message
seems to have gone awry. In short, I suggested we use E-Cash payments
for cracking efforts. This would establish a reward for participating
and an 'exchange rate' for e-cash at the same time.
NODE 09b3115dRe: SSL challenge -- broken !
"Sameer R. Manek" <seawolf@challenger.atc.fhda.edu>Thu, 17 Aug 95 23:46:33 PDT
On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, John Pettitt wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Damien Doligez wrote:
> > SSL challenge -- broken
> > It fails on the second count. Don't trust your credit
> > card number to this protocol.
>
> Huh? So you run on 120 workstations worth how much? to steal a credit
> card number worth how much? Get real - there are hundreds of ways
> to get credit card numbers that cost less. The idea is to make
> breaking SSL less attractive than dumpster diving not to make it
> impossible. I'll lay odds that I could get the credit card number
> of *any* individual in the US in less elapsed time and with nothing
> more than a $1000 windoze machinei, a telephone and a modem.
>
I think the point here is that its not safe to send credit cards
over the net and just like in rl, you got protect yourself by keeping
a close eye on your credit card transactions. And to prove to
our governments that RSA40 isn't a 'good enough' any more.
On the other hand getting access to 120 workstations should'nt be to
difficult for any system admin. Take my school for example, I could
run the program on some 100 odd SGI Indy workstations, 2 SGI challenge S's
and a challenger DM (2cpus) along with 2 DEC Alphas
As long as I set it to a have high nice value, nobody would notice, or even
mind.
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Sameer Manek Seawolf@challenger.atc.fhda.edu
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