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Re: More on Netscape

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NODE 955bc8f6Re: More on Netscape
>It says that the commerce server supports (among others) DES and DES3 
>(same as 3DES?).  They list the key sizes as 64 and 192 bits 
>respectively.  My question is, isn't DES 56 bits?  (with an 8 bit salt 
>that would be 64 I guess), but isn't DES3 112 bits, not 192?

DES keys are specified as 64 bits, of which 8 bits provide odd parity.

The 192 bits would specify three independent keys (not triple DES)
NODE cfec1151Re: More on Netscape
Various people said:
> >It says that the commerce server supports (among others) DES and DES3
> >(same as 3DES?).  They list the key sizes as 64 and 192 bits
> >respectively.  My question is, isn't DES 56 bits?  (with an 8 bit salt
> >that would be 64 I guess), but isn't DES3 112 bits, not 192?

> DES keys are specified as 64 bits, of which 8 bits provide odd parity.
> The 192 bits would specify three independent keys (not triple DES)

Real-world DES implementations ignore those 8 "parity" bits.  DES uses
56 bits of key for encryption, and calling it a 64 bit key is misleading.

Triple DES (3DES) is an overloaded term.  It's used in 2- and 3-key
versions, for 112 and 168 bits of protection respectively.

	Jim Gillogly
	Highday, 25 Wedmath S.R. 1995, 22:18