Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful.

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Black Unicorn writes:
> Some months ago I called for advanced stego and stealth PGP as well as 
> larger keys in the event we all had to go "into the crypto closet" for a 
> time.

> I call for them again.

I know of three ways to get software:

1. Write it yourself.
2. Pay someone else to write it.
3. Find software someone else wrote that meets your needs.

If (3) isn't working, perhaps you should try (1) or (2). 

(I've been "calling for" a big house with a hot tub for years now.
Still no progress. I'll let you know if it works out.)

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On Sat, 16 Sep 1995, Greg Broiles wrote:

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> Black Unicorn writes:
> > Some months ago I called for advanced stego and stealth PGP as well as 
> > larger keys in the event we all had to go "into the crypto closet" for a 
> > time.
> 
> > I call for them again.
> 
> I know of three ways to get software:
> 
> 1. Write it yourself.

I've admitted before I program as well as a carp.  (No, not Mr. Carp)

> 2. Pay someone else to write it.

I don't think that e.g., a stealth PGP would demand much of a fee, or 
that such a fee would make many of the people involved in the various\
 intellectual rights of the program happy.

I might add that I don't want the software for myself, I want it for the 
effect it will have on potential legislation/enforcement.

If some other 'punks want to get together and fund such projects, I will 
participate.  However, putting the burden of financing this venture 
(which will have no immediate economic return, as I will support no 
venture which does not result in fully public software) entirely on my 
shoulders just because I happen to believe it will soon be necessary to 
maintain any strong crypto ability, is unrealistic, and I believe you 
know it.

> 3. Find software someone else wrote that meets your needs.

I'm working on 3, I don't believe it exists.

> If (3) isn't working, perhaps you should try (1) or (2). 
> 
> (I've been "calling for" a big house with a hot tub for years now.
> Still no progress. I'll let you know if it works out.)


Cute, but that's about all.


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Black Unicorn writes:
> > > Some months ago I called for advanced stego and stealth PGP as well as 
> > > larger keys in the event we all had to go "into the crypto closet" for a 
> > > time.
> > 
> > > I call for them again.

> On Sat, 16 Sep 1995, Greg Broiles wrote:
> > (I've been "calling for" a big house with a hot tub for years now.
> > Still no progress. I'll let you know if it works out.)

Black Unicorn writes:
> Cute, but that's about all.

I think the problem is that those of us in a position to build them
don't really believe that they will solve the problem and thus are
spending our time on other matters.

Perry