Re: [NOISE] Unabomber - crypto-anarchist?!?

My almost-namesake Sherry Mayo wrote:

>Found this quote from the Electronic Telegraph, the online version of
>a UK daily newspaper. (world news section, Weds 20th Sept)
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et/access?ac=116192744309&pg=//95/9/20/wunab20.html
>
>"Editors forced to print manifesto of Unabomber
>
>By Charles Laurence in New York
>
>...The heart of his argument is that industrial society has led to ways of
>life for which people are fundamentally unsuited. He calls for a
>crypto-anarchic revolution and a new order based on small, village-style
>units."
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Uh? Crypto-anarchic? Surely he's not one of ours? ;-) ;-) ;-)

I've read a good chunks of FR's work at
http://www.ai.mit.edu/misc/unabomber and have to say he is making some very
interesting and incisive arguments, not all of which I disagree with.

But I also searched the text for mention of "crypto" and only came up with
the fairly standard usage of "crypto leftist." My assumption then is that
the meme of crypto anarchy has spread to the writer at that UK newspaper (I
wonder if Brian Arthur has been talking to them?) and that he interpret's
FR's screed in terms of crypto anarchy?

Still, his writing style and some of his points seem close enough to some
of my own points, not to mention his Northern California nexus and
estimated age, that I'm expecting more inquiries (I deflected one already).

After the call from the Sheriff's office about my alleged activities, I
wonder....

--Tim May

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On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, Timothy C. May wrote:

> Still, his writing style and some of his points seem close enough to some
> of my own points, not to mention his Northern California nexus and
> estimated age, that I'm expecting more inquiries (I deflected one already).
> 
> After the call from the Sheriff's office about my alleged activities, I
> wonder....

Tim May, the UNABOMBER ... too funny for words, hehehe ;)
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| On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, Timothy C. May wrote:
| 
| > Still, his writing style and some of his points seem close enough to some
| > of my own points, not to mention his Northern California nexus and
| > estimated age, that I'm expecting more inquiries (I deflected one already
).
| > 
| > After the call from the Sheriff's office about my alleged activities, I
| > wonder....
| 
| Tim May, the UNABOMBER ... too funny for words, hehehe ;)

A frame-up, I bet! What bothers me is that the it makes sense from a
certain twisted kind of view. Discrediting the group that actually
is a problem when it comes to ITAR, and recently has had good
publicity. And Tim being one of those who spotted Clipper coming,
early on. 

And the punch line; 
  "Look the terrorists and the crypto anarchists are the SAME guys!"


(Tim, not that I agree with your political views, but many Swedes
are like that. ;-) )

Why is it that my conspirational sides has blossomed once I joined
this group? I've posted more severely conspiritional posts recently
than I've done in my whole previous Inet presence. I gotta stop. :-)

/Christian

In article <ac84f1b9250210046a05@[205.199.118.202]> you write:
> 
> But I also searched the text for mention of "crypto" and only came up with
> the fairly standard usage of "crypto leftist." My assumption then is that
> the meme of crypto anarchy has spread to the writer at that UK newspaper (I
> wonder if Brian Arthur has been talking to them?) and that he interpret's
> FR's screed in terms of crypto anarchy?
> 

Partially true, as there was an article on the leader page in Monday's
printed edition entitled "You can't put the Internet genie back in the
bottle" by Boris Johnson.  It's probably on the ET by now, but I don't
know where.

Some quotes:

"But we make three  points in defense of progress.

"The first, which has already been made, is that you can't put the genie
back in the bottle.  Next, we set against the presence of this offensive
matter [porn] the way the Internet can liberate in its sheer prolixity.
We rejoice, for instance, at how some surfer exposed the claptrap of 
L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology by publishing his "secret" texts, knowledge
of which had previously cost his disciples many thousands of pounds. We think
again of those women in the basements of Tehran, or any other place where
freedom of expression is denied.

"if there is no control over what people may read, then wherever there
are computers and telephone lines, totalitarianism will be that much
more precarious."