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NODE 57c02539SpokesPunking...
At 3:03 AM 9/26/95, Craig Hubley wrote:
>"Consensus on cypherpunks seems to be that 40 bit encryption is not viable
> for commercial applications, and that Netscape seems to have taken less
> than due care to choose an appropriate random seed for its session keys."

No offense offered Craig, 'cause I like reading your stuff here, but the
concensus opinion on cypherpunks is "We don' need no steeenking
spokespunk!". It seems to me that you can say that without any title, and
the mouthier amongst us will be tapped for quotes as individuals anyway...

Cheers,
Bob Hettinga

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NODE a7a1d9d5Re: SpokesPunking...
> At 3:03 AM 9/26/95, Craig Hubley wrote:
> >"Consensus on cypherpunks seems to be that 40 bit encryption is not viable
> > for commercial applications, and that Netscape seems to have taken less
> > than due care to choose an appropriate random seed for its session keys."
> 
> No offense offered Craig, 'cause I like reading your stuff here, but the
> concensus opinion on cypherpunks is "We don' need no steeenking
> spokespunk!". 

Does this read like spokespunking ?  I kind of read it more like journalism.

Then again, the role of a temporary mouthpiece, if claimed by anyone, will
lead to a series of flame attacks no matter what they say, even if correct
and reasonable.  And we don't need more of those!  So no spokespunking!

How about standardizing on:  "It seems to me that..." and if someone wants
to refer to his impression of what 'other' punks think, then so be it.

>It seems to me that you can say that without any title, and
> the mouthier amongst us will be tapped for quotes as individuals anyway...

As I was today.  Banking technology or some such trade rag.  Stay tuned
for the editor's guaranteed-outrageous misquotes.  I was careful not to
say anything that might be constured as a quasi-official 'punk' position.
I made the point that the hacking of secure systems, when done in the open,
and without intent to grab private information, was a legitimate activity
in the computer security community, which included the cypherpunks as one
of several interested sub-communities.  And that Netscape saw it that way
too, having acknowledged that they had 'learned a lot', etc.  So...

Flame me!
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