Re: Sigh Re: not a flame please read and think about this

Pat F A R R E L L wrote:
 
/ Subject line is bull*&^&, IMHO, of course

Hey everyone has an opinion.
 
 In message Sat,  9 Sep 1995 16:40:00 UTC, an116512@anon.penet.fi  writes:
 
 > to make my point: why is pat farrel helping the nsa and nist make
 
 /Learn to spell my name. It is on my .sig, my keys, and in my userid.
 /We blockheaded, Irish Catholic Americans are damn proud of our name.
 /Farrell's (along with other cheap Irish labor) built the railroads
 /from Chicago west.  Please spell it correctly, even if you are flaming me.
 
F A R R E L L

M O U S E

 > hey why not just write the escorw code for them!!!???
 > is mr farrel just being naive or is does he realize who hes working for?
 > sorry to single him out but this is just an example of what im talking
 > about.
 
 /I doubt that this clown deserves a response, but...
 
Then shut up.

 /There were a number of cypherpunks there. I can't speak for all,
 /but I expect movites include:
 

 /- attempting to clarify vague and confusing wording so we could
 /understand what they wanted.
 
'k

 /- seeing that working with them, rather than yelling at their stupidity,
 /has a higher chance of getting results.
 
Beware of compromise, you become the rag puller for the rapist.

/ - we got to meet influential folks from industry who agree with us.
 
'k

 /- some of us aren't completely apposed to CKE. I think it has value.
 /If we could convert their plan for GAK into CKE, it would be a big win,
 /well worth the effort.

Yea right. 

/ - they are going to promulgate a FIPS PUB standard next week, whether I
/like it or not, and whether I help or not. It is better to have that
/standard understandable and clear than fuzzy and subject to subective
/evaluation. 

Clear as any government forced standard can be. 

/ - getting preposterous misstatements into the formal Federal Register so
/ we can quote it back to them in the congressional hearings. Mr Geoff
/ Greivelddinger's words should be handy to quote, for one example.
 
'k

 /- there are lots more, but I doubt that I can convince this clown.
 
Then shut up.

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well well well,

our anon friend flames away with 'shut up' 'shut up' 'shut up'.  aint 
free speech nice.

it's so nice to see the remailers put to such good use!  if you are going 
to post flames and worthless commentary the least you could do is sign 
the mesg so we can killfile you.

mr. anon, perhaps you've noticed that the govt pretty much does what they 
want.  in this instance we have the chance to have some influence (albeit 
minor) on what the outcome is.  or, perhaps you're just some TLA stooge 
sent to disrupt our plans to take over the world.  

i suppose you think we should just tell the govt to 'shut up'.  yup, that 
will do the trick.  they'll just say, 'gee, sure.  sorry we tried to take 
away your privacy.  our fault.'  right.  the govt would prefer a nice 
docile populace that goes to work and pays their taxes without talking 
back.  

in any event, this isn't the first grade.  we don't tell people to 'shut 
up'.

- -pat, another irish, but ex-catholic, ridiculously cheap labor involving 
      biochemistry

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anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com writes:

>Then shut up.
 [[ drivel excised ]]
>Then shut up.

Please do us the favor of using a killfile-able name in the future.
-- 
  "Captain Kirk and I both want the same thing: the whole-hearted devotion
of a naive alien.   And if certain things stand in our way -- Klingons for
Kirk, reality for me -- well, we just have to suck in our guts, set the
phasers on Stun, and hope for the best."    Ian Schoales (Merle Kessler)

anonymous-imbecile@shell.portal.com writes, among other things:
> Then shut up.

Its wonderful to see lots of anonymous remailers, but sometimes one
wonders at the people that use them. I can understand, though, why
many people don't have the cojones to make themselves look like
hydrocephalic jerks in public.

Perry