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Re: Cylink

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NODE b347d1bcRe: Cylink
anonymous claims the WSJ said:
>  The arbitrators ruled that RSA hasn't had the right to sublicense
>  the Stanford patents since 1990.
>
>  Cylink said it would seek royalties from companies that have licensed
>  software code from RSA and are redistributing it, arguing that they
>  are infringing the Stanford patents.

hahahaha, this is funny if it's true...  Anyone know which two patents they  
are referring to? (diffie-hellman and merkle-hellman?)

Any ideas on how this will change the legal status of RSAREF and PGP?

andrew
NODE d05dbb10Re: Cylink
Andrew Loewenstern writes:
> >  The arbitrators ruled that RSA hasn't had the right to sublicense
> >  the Stanford patents since 1990.
> >
> >  Cylink said it would seek royalties from companies that have licensed
> >  software code from RSA and are redistributing it, arguing that they
> >  are infringing the Stanford patents.
> 
> hahahaha, this is funny if it's true...  Anyone know which two patents they  
> are referring to? (diffie-hellman and merkle-hellman?)
> 
> Any ideas on how this will change the legal status of RSAREF and PGP?

I'm much more interested in how this changes the legal status of the
D-H derived encryption systems like ElGamal, and how it alters the
patent status on the DSS, which is basically also derived from the
same root.

Perry
NODE f74fe21fRe: Cylink
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> Andrew Loewenstern writes:
> > Any ideas on how this will change the legal status of RSAREF and PGP?

Then Perry Metzger replied:
> I'm much more interested in how this changes the legal status of the
> D-H derived encryption systems like ElGamal, and how it alters the
> patent status on the DSS, which is basically also derived from the
> same root.

What I'm waiting to see is who sues RSADSI for recovery of royalties
paid to Cylink. Imagine how Apple, Lotus, and all of the other
bigcorps using RSA must feel right about now: they licensed a patent
from the wrong people, and it appears that RSADSI may have known that
their rights had expired.

What about Roger Schlafly's suit? Anything new on it?

- -Paul

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NODE c8c23716[NOISE] Re: Cylink
> What about Roger Schlafly's suit? Anything new on it?
> - -Paul

Some pin stripping and a spot of tomato soup.. <g>

(sorry.. couldn't pass it up..