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Re: Emergency File Wipe AlgorithimRe: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim

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NODE a98141a3Re: Emergency File Wipe AlgorithimRe: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
When a running computer is seized in some sort of law enforcement
raid, what are the chances someone would think to backup the
contents of a RAMDISK drive prior to powering it down?
NODE ef038571Re: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Anonymous wrote:

> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:25:07 +0200
> From: Anonymous <anon-remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl>
> To: mail2news@utopia.hacktic.nl, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Newgroups: alt.security.pgp, alt.politics.org.fbi
> Subject: Re: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
> 
> When a running computer is seized in some sort of law enforcement
> raid, what are the chances someone would think to backup the
> contents of a RAMDISK drive prior to powering it down?
> 
> 

Why would you even ask this question?  If the odds are > 0 (which they 
are) they are too high as the solution is simple.

A screensaver which shuts down the system entirely if anything but "}" is 
pressed.

If any key but the secret one is pressed by an excited agent, the ramdisk 
is gone.  If the computer is simply powered down, the ramdisk is gone.

I suggest, rather than a ramdisk however, an encrypted partition al la 
CryptDisk or Secure(Drive? Device?).


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NODE f98a1d4eRe: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
Anon writes>
> When a running computer is seized in some sort of law enforcement
> raid, what are the chances someone would think to backup the
> contents of a RAMDISK drive prior to powering it down?

Also note the recent posting on sci.crypt by Peter Gutmann about being
able to recover data from DRAMs and SRAMs after powerdown. It hits
cryptokeys really bad. 

I suppose this is really academic at the current stage, but that might
change.

/Christian
NODE 977280e3Re: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
>Also note the recent posting on sci.crypt by Peter Gutmann about being
>able to recover data from DRAMs and SRAMs after powerdown. It hits
>cryptokeys really bad. 

If the power is cycled as opposed to turned off only then a memory self test 
program will probably erase the data.

	Phill