WHERE did this come from?

Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited e-mail 
message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I 
inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?

I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to me 
as undeliverable.

I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why it 
was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.

Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
Information would be nice too.  

Thanks.

-------------header should be below here-------------- i hope...--------

OK, I screwed up.  Sorry to take up all the space with the text of it.

But, whether you agree with it or not, if you know from whence it came 
and how they sent it, I would like to know.  

Thanks again.

In article <44kgtb$88i@news.rain.org>, rivaud@rain.org wrote:

:This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
:
:---------------------------------17921121372935
:Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
:Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
:
:Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited e-mail 
:message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I 
:inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?
:
:I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to me 
:as undeliverable.
:
:I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why it 
:was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.
:
:Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
:Information would be nice too.  
:
:Thanks.
:
:-------------header should be below here-------------- i hope...--------
:
:
:
:---------------------------------17921121372935
:Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
:Content-Type: text/plain
:
:Return-Path: Crusader@national-alliance.org Received: from
asso.nis.garr.it (asso.nis.garr.it [192.12.192.10]) by coyote.rain.org (8=
:6.12/CSE) with SMTP id FAA20270; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 05:58:42 -0700 From:
Crusader@national-alliance.org
:Received: by asso.nis.garr.it (4.1/1.34/ABB950929)
:        id AA14320; Sat, 30 Sep 95 13:02:20 +0100 Received: by
mercury.sfsu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) 
:        id AA21676; Sat, 30 Sep 95 03:43:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95
03:43:27 -0700
:Message-Id: <91324721788@National-Alliance.org> Subject: The Long March 
:Apparently-To: Crusader@National-Alliance.org
:
:
:
:If you are concerned about the fate Western/American civiliztion and its
people, please take the time to read this artcle.

<Massive CHOP of utter garbage deleted>
 

Welcome to the club, guy... 

I found this drivel in my mailbox this morning too.

Here's the headers from mine, if anybody thinks it will help track these morons.

<Begin header block>
Return-Path: <Crusader@national-alliance.org>
Received: from asso.nis.garr.it by deathstar.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)]
From: <Crusader@national-alliance.org>
Errors-To: Crusader@national-alliance.org
Received: by asso.nis.garr.it (4.1/1.34/ABB950929)
        id AA09169; Sat, 30 Sep 95 03:14:27 +0100
Received: by mercury.sfsu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) 
        id AA21676; Fri, 29 Sep 95 19:23:27 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 19:23:27 -0700
Message-Id: <91324721846@National-Alliance.org>
Subject: The Long March 
Apparently-To: Crusader@National-Alliance.org
<end header block>

Looks to me like it originally gated into the mail-system at
mercury.sfsu.edu, wherever that is. From who is beyond my understanding.
Hopefully somebody can find out and let the apropriate people know so it
can be stopped from happening again.

I get enough junk in my paper mailbox without having to wade through it in
my email box!

-- 
+-------------------+ \__    Roadkill on the information superhighway...
|Don Bruder         | |  \       AUGH! +-------------------------------+
|dakidd@cris.com    | |_@_\____&   /   | I will choose a purpose clear:|
|I eat my roadkill! |_|____|__@|  @    | I will choose Free-will -Rush |
+/.\/.\--------+ /.\/.\=(__)/.\] \|/   +-------------------------------+
_\_/\_/__________\_/\_/_____\_/__/_\__     Finger for PGP public key

In article <44kgtb$88i@news.rain.org>,  <rivaud@rain.org> wrote:
>
>Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited e-mail 
>message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I 
>inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?
>
>I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to me 
>as undeliverable.
>
>I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why it 
>was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.
>
>Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
>Information would be nice too.  

[...]

>Return-Path: Crusader@national-alliance.org Received: from asso.nis.garr.it (asso.nis.garr.it [192.12.192.10]) by coyote.rain.org (8=
>6.12/CSE) with SMTP id FAA20270; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 05:58:42 -0700 From: Crusader@national-alliance.org
>Received: by asso.nis.garr.it (4.1/1.34/ABB950929)
>	id AA14320; Sat, 30 Sep 95 13:02:20 +0100 Received: by mercury.sfsu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) 
>	id AA21676; Sat, 30 Sep 95 03:43:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 03:43:27 -0700
>Message-Id: <91324721788@National-Alliance.org> Subject: The Long March 
>Apparently-To: Crusader@National-Alliance.org
>
>
>If you are concerned about the fate Western/American civiliztion and its people, please take the time to read this artcle.

[remainder of political rant deleted]


I got it too.  It was a pretty good forgery, but the web pages mentioned
seem to be owned by treborle@netcom.com.  It looks like a hit-and-run spam,
as he hasn't logged in for awhile.  But since netcom charges for disk space,
I took the liberty of mailing him a few uuencoded core files. :)  You might
want to send a few to his compuserve address too for good measure. 
(73323.603@compuserve.com)

It looks like their web site www.natvan.com got taken out already, tho they
still have the netcom one.

In <44kgtb$88i@news.rain.org> rivaud@rain.org writes: 
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>---------------------------------17921121372935
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited
e-mail 
>message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I

>inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?
>
>I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to
me 
>as undeliverable.
>
>I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why
it 
>was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.
>
>Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
>Information would be nice too.  
>

I got the SAME dammed letter.  I don't know who the facist bastard is
that sent it to me, but I sent him a reply ALSO telling him to stop
sending it to me (he sent me 3 copies) and I couldn't connect to his
server.

In article <44leli$s38@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, VMARX@ix.netcom.com 
says...
>
>In <44kgtb$88i@news.rain.org> rivaud@rain.org writes: 
>>
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>
>>---------------------------------17921121372935
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited
>e-mail 
>>message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I
>
>>inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?
>>
>>I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to
>me 
>>as undeliverable.
>>
>>I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why
>it 
>>was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.
>>
>>Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
>>Information would be nice too.  
>>
>
>I got the SAME dammed letter.  I don't know who the facist bastard is
>that sent it to me, but I sent him a reply ALSO telling him to stop
>sending it to me (he sent me 3 copies) and I couldn't connect to his
>server.
>
There was a posting allegedly from a Harvey S. Cohen at AT&T on 
soc.culture.jewish to the effect that the "Long March" email is, in 
fact, a fraud intended to get the National Alliance in trouble. (a noble 
cause if not necessarily appropriate means)

I don't know if this is connected but I notice that a "let's use these 
big lie tactics on Usenet" posting allegedly from the National 
Alliance's Compuserve address seems to have somehow gone through the 
University of Pennsylvania.

     "Things are seldom what they seem.
      Skim milk masquerades as cream."

                                William S. Gilbert (H.M.S. Pinafore)

Joel Rubin (jmrubin@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <44leli$s38@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, VMARX@ix.netcom.com 
: says...
: >
: >In <44kgtb$88i@news.rain.org> rivaud@rain.org writes: 
: >>
: >>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
: >>
: >>---------------------------------17921121372935
: >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
: >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
: >>
: >>Attatched to this is, (I hope), the header text from a unsolicited
: >e-mail 
: >>message I received.  The return address does not work.  WHY? How can I
: >
: >>inform the sender that I hope to never receive there material again?
: >>
: >>I tried "reply-all" through Eudora, but my reply got bounced back to
: >me 
: >>as undeliverable.
: >>
: >>I have removed the content of the original message. I don't know why
: >it 
: >>was sent to me, but it contained material that I found offensive.
: >>
: >>Any help, or words of wisdom and enlightenment would be appreciated. 
: >>Information would be nice too.  
: >>
: >
: >I got the SAME dammed letter.  I don't know who the facist bastard is
: >that sent it to me, but I sent him a reply ALSO telling him to stop
: >sending it to me (he sent me 3 copies) and I couldn't connect to his
: >server.
: >

: I don't know if this is connected but I notice that a "let's use these 
: big lie tactics on Usenet" posting allegedly from the National 
: Alliance's Compuserve address seems to have somehow gone through the 
: University of Pennsylvania.

:      "Things are seldom what they seem.
:       Skim milk masquerades as cream."

The E-mails seem to be coming from different sendmails; the copy I got
supposedly originated from slip-1.slip.net and bounced through a few
French sites.  Perhaps s/he's hedging their bets?


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- Paul "Shag" Walmsley <ccshag@cclabs.missouri.edu>
  "Praise and blame alike mean nothing." -- Virginia Woolf