NODE dc58f7a3Re: Netscape rewards are an insult
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Sun, 15 Oct 95 15:56:45 PDT
All praise to Jeff and his fellow programmers for sharing
the struggle to come up with stronger cypto, but, no praise
at all to Netscape's front office guys bullshitting the
stock holders and speculators. Check the press releases and
the speeches to customers and investors.
Scott McNealy shocked an audience into silence at a recent
plush meeting of high-tech reps with investors by asking,
"Anybody telling the truth here?" Then applause broke out
for
his shrewd beat-em-to-the-punch candor to offset the
pervasive cynicism of oft-burned high-tech investors.
Big bucks are not made by hard-working programmers but by
the marketeers of NASDAQ and NYSE smoke and mirrors used to
lure multitudes of unsavvy investors and Internet
merchandisers.
Netscape's leaders are protecting its major stockholding
coldhearts, just like Microsoft, Intel, Motorola, AT&T,
and the rest do, or they die in the financial fuck-the-
public sharkpool. They couldn't care less about the bottom-
of-the-ladder techies who do the grunge work, take the
blame for programming mistakes produced under
horrendous marketing deadlines, and then are left to
commiserate with each other and gnaw knuckles.
That's the joy and sorrow of this reading list, the ancient
story, talented people working their asses off for sons of
bitches who think employees are contemptible, disposable or
bribeable for cheap change and backpats -- and easily
replaceable on shore or off. Jeff's not alone in this bind.
NODE 4b4436bcRe: Netscape rewards are an insult
Jeff Weinstein <jsw@netscape.com>Mon, 16 Oct 95 20:21:41 PDT
John Young wrote:
> That's the joy and sorrow of this reading list, the ancient
> story, talented people working their asses off for sons of
> bitches who think employees are contemptible, disposable or
> bribeable for cheap change and backpats -- and easily
> replaceable on shore or off. Jeff's not alone in this bind.
I don't share your cynical view of the world. Having worked for
a year at IBM, I know what that side is like. I feel pretty strongly
that all employees should have ownership and a vested interest in
the company. At the last three companies I've worked for, every
employee has had stock options. I think that companies exist
where management holds the view that you mention, but there are
also companies that value the contributions of their employees.
--Jeff
--
Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist
Netscape Communication Corporation
jsw@netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw
Any opinions expressed above are mine.
NODE 97a70298Re: Netscape rewards are an insult
Thomas Grant Edwards <tedwards@Glue.umd.edu>Sun, 15 Oct 95 16:18:55 PDT
On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, John Young wrote:
> All praise to Jeff and his fellow programmers for sharing
> the struggle to come up with stronger cypto, but, no praise
> at all to Netscape's front office guys bullshitting the
> stock holders and speculators. Check the press releases and
> the speeches to customers and investors.
I think it will be interesting to see if Netscape will ever sell enough
product to make a profit...however, they seem to be an excellent charity
so far, making the WWW a very popular place.
-Thomas