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Verisign and MITM

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NODE 5dbc197cVerisign and MITM
I recently submitted a certificate request to Verisign for my
SSL web server. Looking over the process, I don't see how it avoids
MITM in any way.

The process:

A) I send to netscape-cert@versign.com the email address and phone
number of my webmaster (me) along with the cert request, generated
using SSLeay's 'req' utility.

B) I fax to Verisign a request letter saying "I have a right to use
the name Commmunity ConneXion, etc." and proof of right to use
name. (Berkeley biz liscense and Alameda Cty. fictitious bizname
statement, in my case.)

C) I snail mail them the same thing.


	I don't see any mechanism in place to avoid an MITM subverting
step (A), and putting in his cert request in there. There isn't a
strong cryptographic unforgeable relationship between my
usmail/fax/proof request and the emailed kx509 cert request.


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NODE 68108aa9Re: Verisign and MITM
sameer <sameer@c2.org> writes:

>	I recently submitted a certificate request to Verisign for my
>SSL web server. Looking over the process, I don't see how it avoids
>MITM in any way.
>[...]
>	I don't see any mechanism in place to avoid an MITM subverting
>step (A), and putting in his cert request in there. There isn't a
>strong cryptographic unforgeable relationship between my
>usmail/fax/proof request and the emailed kx509 cert request.

I guess the one limitation is that you would either not get the
certificate (because the MITM kept it) or you would find out that it did
not include your public key (if he forwarded it to you).  In either case
the MITM would be discovered.  In the mean time he could wreak some
havoc, though.  But he would be found out after a few days.  That's one
of the things they need Certificate Revocation Lists for in their system,
but I don't know if they are used.

Hal