NODE 62efbc53forging headers
tien@well.sf.ca.us (Lee Tien)Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:31:00 +0800
So I got this message. How would someone identify the sender of this
message? I'm writing an article on anonymity, with some discussion of
remailers, and want to argue that forging already permits people to raise
the costs of tracing significantly, anonymous remailers or no.
Lee
>From: freeh@fbi.gov
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:07:08 -0400
>Apparently-To: tien@well.sf.ca.us
>X-UIDL: 814570964.056
>
>> How difficult is it to forge headers? How difficult is it to trace a
>> message to the actual sender if the header is forged?
>
>Not very difficult at all (to forge, that is). This is a quick and dirty
>example that should be somewhat traceable. If you want pointers on how to
>trace it, post the whole thing, including headers, to cypherpunks.
>
>Louis
>
>
NODE 050554f7Re: forging headers
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:48:25 +0800
You didn't send ALL the headers, only some of them. You need to send
on the full set to make a trace possible.
Lee Tien writes:
> So I got this message. How would someone identify the sender of this
> message? I'm writing an article on anonymity, with some discussion of
> remailers, and want to argue that forging already permits people to raise
> the costs of tracing significantly, anonymous remailers or no.
>
> Lee
>
> >From: freeh@fbi.gov
> >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:07:08 -0400
> >Apparently-To: tien@well.sf.ca.us
> >X-UIDL: 814570964.056
> >
> >> How difficult is it to forge headers? How difficult is it to trace a
> >> message to the actual sender if the header is forged?
> >
> >Not very difficult at all (to forge, that is). This is a quick and dirty
> >example that should be somewhat traceable. If you want pointers on how to
> >trace it, post the whole thing, including headers, to cypherpunks.
> >
> >Louis
NODE 4216acc4Re: forging headers
Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@orchard.medford.ma.us>Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:40:23 +0800
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> You didn't send ALL the headers, only some of them. You need to send
> on the full set to make a trace possible.
More specifically, the headers which are most needed are the Received:
and Message-Id: headers; each mailer along the path adds another
Received; header, typically with its name, a timestamp, and sometimes
the name or address of the previous system.
Other headers may also help.
> Lee Tien writes:
> > So I got this message. How would someone identify the sender of this
> > message? I'm writing an article on anonymity, with some discussion of
> > remailers, and want to argue that forging already permits people to raise
> > the costs of tracing significantly, anonymous remailers or no.
- Bill
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NODE a3d15a5cRe: forging headers
Adam Shostack <adam@lighthouse.homeport.org>Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:38:58 +0800
You need to send the entire headers, including such things as recieved
lines. Looking over those lines carefully will probably provide some
clues.
eg:
>From owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Sun Sep 24 20:14:32 1995
>Return-Path: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com
>Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by
>homeport.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA18842 for
><adam@homeport.org>; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:14:30 -0400
>Received: from toad.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP
> id QQziqi14036; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:10:07 -0400
>Received: by toad.com id AA02191; Sun, 24 Sep 95 17:05:32 PDT
>Received: from crypto.com by toad.com id AA02182; Sun, 24 Sep 95
>17:05:26 PDT
>Received: from tpc.crypto.com by crypto.com Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:16:16
>-0400
>Message-Id: <199509250016.UAA19204@crypto.com>
| So I got this message. How would someone identify the sender of this
| message? I'm writing an article on anonymity, with some discussion of
| remailers, and want to argue that forging already permits people to raise
| the costs of tracing significantly, anonymous remailers or no.
|
| Lee
|
| >From: freeh@fbi.gov
| >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:07:08 -0400
| >Apparently-To: tien@well.sf.ca.us
| >X-UIDL: 814570964.056
| >
| >> How difficult is it to forge headers? How difficult is it to trace a
| >> message to the actual sender if the header is forged?
| >
| >Not very difficult at all (to forge, that is). This is a quick and dirty
| >example that should be somewhat traceable. If you want pointers on how to
| >trace it, post the whole thing, including headers, to cypherpunks.
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