NODE b1cf8ce9POTP Security
jgrubs@left.webcasters.comSat, 11 Nov 1995 11:58:25 +0800
>POTP(tm) Secure FTP version 1.5 for MS Windows
>===============================================
>
>The first commercially available implementation of our
>POTP (Power One Time Pad) encryption algorithm. The package includes
>a POTP Secure FTP Client, POTP Secure FTP Server, and POTP FileCrypt -
>a stand alone file encryption program.
>
>Both our client and server support standard ftp, in addition to
>absolutely user-transparent encryption on-the-fly of all data
>sent/received when connected to a POTP Secure FTP Server/Client.
What level of security does this cute, little puppy provide???
NODE 72eff7ceRe: POTP Security
"James M. Cobb" <jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com>Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:16:40 +0800
Friend,
On 11 10 95 jgrubs@left.webcasters.com inquired about POTP
security:
What level of security does this cute, little puppy provide???
One approach to answering that inquiry is an excerpt from:
Date: Sat, 21 OCT 95 10:58:51 -0500
From: Paul Jackman <jacktech@delphi.com>
Newgroups: talk.politics.crypto
Subject: Re: Elementrix One-Time Pad
...mine [Jackman's background and experience] goes back to 1961
as Crypto Communications Control Command Center Supervisor for
the National Security Agency (NSA), and US Army Inteligence Se-
curity. Even so, I do not consider myself expert in either the
technical sense or the historical sense. But, I know enough not
to comment on algorithms that I don't have access to.
The algorithm will be published when patent protection is assured.
It is currently patent pending in several countries.
As far as marketing goes, this product is not going to disapear.
We have been premarketing security technology for four years through
beta, and one year in pilot with international Fortune 100 companies.
The initial presentations on Internet about a year ago showed us that
the the newness and complexity of the Algorithm had to be presented
one on on one to the experts which Elementrix has done. There is a
long parade of companies that have implimented this technology but
do not wish to be named, (Typical of any security implementation.
Those who do aknowledge the integity of the products are noteworthy,
Allen Brill Kroll Assoc., Al Decker Coopers & Lybrand, Todd Sun Mer-
gent, and there will be many more.
Paul Jackman
I silently corrected capitalization and spelling in the above ex-
cerpt.
I do not understand the import of the expression "expert in either
the technical sense or the historical sense."
Cordially,
Jim
NODE cb7de362Re: POTP Security
chen@intuit.com (Mark Chen)Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:06:25 +0800
> On 11 10 95 jgrubs@left.webcasters.com inquired about POTP
> security:
>
> What level of security does this cute, little puppy provide???
>
>
> One approach to answering that inquiry is an excerpt from:
>
> Date: Sat, 21 OCT 95 10:58:51 -0500
> From: Paul Jackman <jacktech@delphi.com>
> Newgroups: talk.politics.crypto
> Subject: Re: Elementrix One-Time Pad
>
>
> ...mine [Jackman's background and experience] goes back to 1961
> as Crypto Communications Control Command Center Supervisor for
> the National Security Agency (NSA), and US Army Inteligence Se-
> curity. Even so, I do not consider myself expert in either the
> technical sense or the historical sense. But, I know enough not
> to comment on algorithms that I don't have access to.
>
> The algorithm will be published when patent protection is assured.
> It is currently patent pending in several countries.
>
> As far as marketing goes, this product is not going to disapear.
> We have been premarketing security technology for four years through
> beta, and one year in pilot with international Fortune 100 companies.
> The initial presentations on Internet about a year ago showed us that
> the the newness and complexity of the Algorithm had to be presented
> one on on one to the experts which Elementrix has done. There is a
> long parade of companies that have implimented this technology but
> do not wish to be named, (Typical of any security implementation.
> Those who do aknowledge the integity of the products are noteworthy,
> Allen Brill Kroll Assoc., Al Decker Coopers & Lybrand, Todd Sun Mer-
> gent, and there will be many more.
Also noteworthy are those who have examined the product under NDA and
declined to give an endorsement.
--
Mark Chen
chen@intuit.com
415/329-6913
finger for PGP public key
D4 99 54 2A 98 B1 48 0C CF 95 A5 B0 6E E0 1E 1D
NODE f0cb22a6Re: POTP Security
sameer <sameer@c2.org>Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:41:29 +0800
Anything calling itself a one-time-pad which isn't, imo should
not be trusted, even if r, s, a, d, h, (and everyone else) said the
algorithm was great.
>
>
> > On 11 10 95 jgrubs@left.webcasters.com inquired about POTP
> > security:
> >
> > What level of security does this cute, little puppy provide???
> >
> >
> > One approach to answering that inquiry is an excerpt from:
> >
> > Date: Sat, 21 OCT 95 10:58:51 -0500
> > From: Paul Jackman <jacktech@delphi.com>
> > Newgroups: talk.politics.crypto
> > Subject: Re: Elementrix One-Time Pad
> >
> >
> > ...mine [Jackman's background and experience] goes back to 1961
> > as Crypto Communications Control Command Center Supervisor for
> > the National Security Agency (NSA), and US Army Inteligence Se-
> > curity. Even so, I do not consider myself expert in either the
> > technical sense or the historical sense. But, I know enough not
> > to comment on algorithms that I don't have access to.
> >
> > The algorithm will be published when patent protection is assured.
> > It is currently patent pending in several countries.
> >
> > As far as marketing goes, this product is not going to disapear.
> > We have been premarketing security technology for four years through
> > beta, and one year in pilot with international Fortune 100 companies.
> > The initial presentations on Internet about a year ago showed us that
> > the the newness and complexity of the Algorithm had to be presented
> > one on on one to the experts which Elementrix has done. There is a
> > long parade of companies that have implimented this technology but
> > do not wish to be named, (Typical of any security implementation.
> > Those who do aknowledge the integity of the products are noteworthy,
> > Allen Brill Kroll Assoc., Al Decker Coopers & Lybrand, Todd Sun Mer-
> > gent, and there will be many more.
>
> Also noteworthy are those who have examined the product under NDA and
> declined to give an endorsement.
>
>
> --
> Mark Chen
> chen@intuit.com
> 415/329-6913
> finger for PGP public key
> D4 99 54 2A 98 B1 48 0C CF 95 A5 B0 6E E0 1E 1D
>
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NODE 9c00ebccRe: POTP Security
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:18:48 +0800
> As far as marketing goes, this product is not going to disapear.
> We have been premarketing security technology for four years through
> beta, and one year in pilot with international Fortune 100 companies.
They would be smart not to give the names of their clients because
good samaritans might inform them of the quality of their product.
Perry
NODE ec0e88d9Re: POTP Security
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:12:16 +0800
jgrubs@left.webcasters.com writes:
> >The first commercially available implementation of our
> >POTP (Power One Time Pad) encryption algorithm. The package includes
> >a POTP Secure FTP Client, POTP Secure FTP Server, and POTP FileCrypt -
> >a stand alone file encryption program.
>
> What level of security does this cute, little puppy provide???
None whatsoever is my guess.
Perry