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Re: censored? corrected [Steve Pizzo cited in The Spotlight]

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NODE c58a6cd2Re: censored? corrected [Steve Pizzo cited in The Spotlight]
At 08:06 AM 11/6/95 -0600, Stan Drescher wrote:
>shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) said:
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>MS> If the InterNIC yanked your domain, this would *not* affect your IP
>MS> connectivity -- your ability to be reached by any Internet protocol
>MS> via IP address.  The InterNIC has nothing at all to do with that.
>
>	I never disputed that subverting the DNS system would affect the
>ability to use numeric IP addresses, just IP names.<snip>


  There has been a thought that's been in the back of my mind while reading
this thread. For example, at one time, the telephone companies used "names"
such as Klick 5-1234.  Later, they went to all numbers, i.e., 555-1234.
People balked, but they eventually got used to it.  There are other examples
not necessary to list here.
  If, however, the growth continues with people, not only accessing the net,
but getting domain names - doesn't it seem likely that, at some point, only
IP addresses will be left (or dumb domain names like http://www.stkdlcp.com)?
  Ergo, what is the problem with having a numerical URL?  After all, some
people's URL's (in name form) are not the easiest to remember.  In the long
run, numbers may be easier to remember.  Just think of how many numbers
(Soc. Sec. #'s; phone #'s; tax #'s, etc.) that we have committed to memory.
Plus, one doesn't have to worry about InterNIC yanking your domain - and
other related problems.
  Just my .02 cents worth....
  

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Lynne L. Harrison, Esq.
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lharrison@mhv.net

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NODE c6c63385Re: censored? corrected [Steve Pizzo cited in The Spotlight]
In article <9511061509.AA10512@mhv.net>,
Lynne L. Harrison <lharrison@mhv.net> wrote:
>   If, however, the growth continues with people, not only accessing the net,
> but getting domain names - doesn't it seem likely that, at some point, only
> IP addresses will be left (or dumb domain names like http://www.stkdlcp.com)?
>   Ergo, what is the problem with having a numerical URL?

Stability.  Originally DNS was just a handy user-friendly thing, but then
it because the primary way to name a host.  This allowed the IP address
to become irrelevant, which allows entire sites to be renumbered when the
network topology changes.  This is important to keep the routing tables
small (by minimizing the backwards-compatibility exceptions), which is
a critical problem today.  Thus all recent architectural decisions have
been away from direct use of IP addresses anywhere.

DNS zone table size is also a problem; solutions will probably be in the
form of new top-level domains.  You might be see http://fubarco.www or
http://www.ibm or http://www.fubarco.inc, but not http://10.5.23.10.

Neither routing table scaling nor DNS zone scaling is really on-topic;
if you're interested I'll give you some pointers in private mail.
-- 
Shields.