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Re: Telephone switch capacity -Reply

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NODE d10cb976Re: Telephone switch capacity -Reply
>>> John D. Ervin <jervin@netpath.net> 11/03/95 05:32pm
>You would be suprised as to how much is being tapped
>now.
>You need to do a little more research before spouting off..

>>If the FBI wishes to set up a system that is capable
>>of monitoring 1% of the total number of lines, that equates
>>to a ability to tap 5%, not 1% of all calls in progress. 

	I am very confused.  I was not 'spouting off' in any
sense of the word.  Your comment refers to my apparent
lack of knowledge of the widespread practice of
wiretapping.  A practice, at least according to the sworn
testimony of agents of the FBI, is not very widespread at all.
	That is, however, beside the point.  I was making a
very truthful comment about the engineered capacity of the
telephone network in the U.S.  I made no comment
whatsoever about the current ability or desire of the FBI to
tap into individuals telephone conversations.

								-=- Noah
NODE 48d549eeRe: Telephone switch capacity -Reply
[about the FBI supposedly wanting the ability to tap 1% of all phones in 
the US simultaneously]

EPIC, CDT, and the original source confirm that they're talking about
capacity, not total circuits. So what the FBI was asking for (not
demanding, certainly not dicatating) by early 1999 (not Oct 1998, because
the ticker starts at the end of the comment period) was between 0.25% and
1% of the 10-20% of lines that the phone system can handle at once, or
between 0.025% and 0.2% of the lines. 

Of course the FBI doesn't have the staff to listen to all these lines, and
they need an individual court order to authorize each individual
interception, so this numbers game is a bit of a joke. 

There is no controversy about the number of wiretaps that have been
authorized, except as manufactured by the Spotlight folks and other
conspiracy loons. The EPIC FOIA request and lawsuit concerns the rationale
for the FBI's capacity request. 

It all makes a little more sense now. I had been wondering what the hell
the FBI had been smoking. Something not quite as strong as the stuff the
Spotlight people are smoking, it turns out. 

The FBI proposal is still Not A Good Thing, and deserves your interest 
and opposition. See http://www.epic.org/privacy/wiretap/oppose_wiretap.html 
for facts and reasonable responses. The CDT's page, at 
http://www.cdt.org/digtel.html, is better.

-rich