Re: FBI Wants to Wiretap One of Every 100 Phones in Urban Areas

> On Fri, 3 Nov 1995 clarkm@cnct.kom wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for this item!  Two little excerpts jump out at me.
> 
> Gee, I hope they didn't spook you too badly when they jumped out at you 
> like that. I can tell you're a little jumpy.

Hi Rich!  Thx for changing my domain, I'm sure it fooled SAIC.

> > So what is it?  1,154 wiretaps?  Or 20,000?
> 
> Easy: both. 1,154 wiretaps, and 20K to 25K intercepts, which includes both 
> wiretaps and other interceptions, i.e., recording which phone numbers you 
> call but not actually listening to the conversations.
> 
> Get out of Dodge.

You get out of Dodge.

1,154 electronic surveillance orders, about 7,000 pen registers & trap/trace
plus 500 FISA warrants, all 1993 if memory serves.

Figures as supplied to EPIC, and from memory.

> By whom is the FBI being sued? What is the case number? Who are the 
> lawyers? What are their Bar numbers? How many times have they been 
> disciplined for bringing frivolous suits?

EPIC.

Quick!!  Fire up your index!

> > What's so special about the year 2002?  
> 
> Obviously, it is two elections from now, when the UN will invade the US 
> to impose the rule of the Anti-Christ.
> 
> Oops, I wasn't supposed to say that.

But now that you have...

Check out the wiretap stats and FOIA responses at http://www.epic.org and 
come back & quibble some more.
     
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On Fri, 3 Nov 1995 clarkm@cnct.com wrote:

> > On Fri, 3 Nov 1995 clarkm@cnct.kom wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks for this item!  Two little excerpts jump out at me.
> > 
> > Gee, I hope they didn't spook you too badly when they jumped out at you 
> > like that. I can tell you're a little jumpy.
> 
> Hi Rich!  Thx for changing my domain, I'm sure it fooled SAIC.

I can only hope you're joking, but based on your last article, I'm not so
sure. That was intended as a small joke for anyone using PGP; see the
X-PGP-Key header in the original message. 

You really should have talked to Steve Pizzo before bastardizing his
article. Now you might get written up again as an example of the
conspiracy wackos on the net. I suppose you view any publicity as a
positive. I wholly support that goal. 

> > By whom is the FBI being sued? What is the case number? Who are the 
> > lawyers? What are their Bar numbers? How many times have they been 
> > disciplined for bringing frivolous suits?
> 
> EPIC.

EPIC has indeed made an FOIA claim and sued the FBI, but not for the
reasons stated, which is why I assumed you were talking about something
else. Again, Spotlight being vague about evidence that doesn't really
support their points. The case is C.A. No. 94-1720 (CRR) in D.C.  You can
write to the court for the full record, at duplication cost. 

I fully support EPIC's position. My apologies for confusing the message
with the second-hand, third-rate messenger. 

I notice you added Arnie Lerma to the recipient list. Didn't he publicly 
dissociate himself from you guys? Doesn't he have other things on his 
mind? I have another little joke just for him on my machine at 
gopher://dorms.stanford.edu:70/0R478556-480696-/win95netbugs et seq (the 
file actually goes all the way to byte 1149418).

[Big Bird deleted]

- -rich
 [Followups out of cpunks, please]

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