NODE ddb68421Re: ACLU Cyber-Liberties Update: Nov. 8, 1995
"James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>Mon, 13 Nov 1995 09:28:09 +0800
At 05:15 PM 11/8/95 -0500, ACLUNATL@aol.com wrote:
> According to the government's own statistics, 1,800 innocent conversations
> are intercepted each and every time a wiretap or other form of electronic
> surveillance is placed.
This seems curiously inefficient, even for government work.
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NODE 5476967eRe: ACLU Cyber-Liberties Update: Nov. 8, 1995
Brad Dolan <bdolan@use.usit.net>Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:10:42 +0800
On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, James A. Donald wrote:
> At 05:15 PM 11/8/95 -0500, ACLUNATL@aol.com wrote:
> > According to the government's own statistics, 1,800 innocent conversations
> > are intercepted each and every time a wiretap or other form of electronic
> > surveillance is placed.
>
> This seems curiously inefficient, even for government work.
Only if the government isn't interested in monitoring the 1,800 innocent
conversations.
-Brad Dolan,
Who was stopped and questioned at a highway "checkpoint" this morning.
This was the third time this year.
Listen to a few thousand conversations or question a few thousand
motorists, and you're bound to find somebody up to something.
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> We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/
> and our property, because of the kind |
> of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald
> derives from this right, not from the |
> arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd@echeque.com
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NODE db5eb911Re: ACLU Cyber-Liberties Update: Nov. 8, 1995
Brian Davis <bdavis@thepoint.net>Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:47:25 +0800
On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, James A. Donald wrote:
> At 05:15 PM 11/8/95 -0500, ACLUNATL@aol.com wrote:
> > According to the government's own statistics, 1,800 innocent conversations
> > are intercepted each and every time a wiretap or other form of electronic
> > surveillance is placed.
>
> This seems curiously inefficient, even for government work.
Not at all. When a wiretap goes up, agents listen to every call that
goes to or from the phone. If the call doesn't relate to anything
"criminal," they must "minimize" the interception by not listening. They
can listen again after some minutes to see if the topic has changed.
The pre-wiretap minimization conference for agents is taken very
seriously by ethical prosecutors (not an oxymoron for those who ask).
Good agents (ditto) also take the briefing seriously.
EBD