NODE be262e6dGAK boycott, What are legal implications?
Paul Elliott <paul.elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org>Thu, 21 Dec 95 14:08:38 PST
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Here is a question for all of you cyber legal types out there.
This question presupposes:
The NIST will complete its work on the GAK standard. But no law will be
passed (yet) regulating the use of encryption in the U. S. (The GAK standard
is an attempt to create an environment in which such laws can be passed.)
In the U.S., Big Company INC will start marketing a GAKed encryption
product domesticly.
A bunch of cypherpunkish types will immediately try to organize a boycott
against BIG COMPANY.
What are the cypherpunks legal risks?
I seem to remember that back in the 70s, the NAACP lost a big case
with respect to their boycott in a southern city. As I recall there were people
in the street begging money for the NAACP because there was a > 10**6 $
judgement against the NAACP and they needed that much just to appeal.
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Paul.Elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org Address: 3987 South Gessner #224
Houston Texas 77063
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NODE 4103a000Re: GAK boycott, What are legal implications?
"Robert A. Jacoby" <rjacoby1@osf1.gmu.edu>Fri, 22 Dec 95 07:52:46 PST
On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Paul Elliott wrote:
Gee, being legally responsible for lost revenue over a boycott. Rev. Donald
Wilmond is going to be very broke! I don't know anything about the NAACP
case, but it seems to me that free speech & merely *urging* people to
boycott would be a perfect defense.
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> Here is a question for all of you cyber legal types out there.
> This question presupposes:
>
> The NIST will complete its work on the GAK standard. But no law will be
> passed (yet) regulating the use of encryption in the U. S. (The GAK standard
> is an attempt to create an environment in which such laws can be passed.)
> In the U.S., Big Company INC will start marketing a GAKed encryption
> product domesticly.
>
> A bunch of cypherpunkish types will immediately try to organize a boycott
> against BIG COMPANY.
>
> What are the cypherpunks legal risks?
>
> I seem to remember that back in the 70s, the NAACP lost a big case
> with respect to their boycott in a southern city. As I recall there were people
> in the street begging money for the NAACP because there was a > 10**6 $
> judgement against the NAACP and they needed that much just to appeal.
>
>
> - --
> Paul Elliott Telephone: 1-713-781-4543
> Paul.Elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org Address: 3987 South Gessner #224
> Houston Texas 77063
>
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Robert A. Jacoby (speaking only for myself--not legal advice)
Assistant Law Librarian for LAN/Reference
George Mason University Law Library
(703) 993-8107
rjacoby1@osf1.gmu.edu
NODE e8e335b0Re: GAK boycott, What are legal implications?
Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com>Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:21:39 PST
> Here is a question for all of you cyber legal types out there.
> This question presupposes:
>
> The NIST will complete its work on the GAK standard. But no law will be
> passed (yet) regulating the use of encryption in the U. S. (The GAK standard
> is an attempt to create an environment in which such laws can be passed.)
> In the U.S., Big Company INC will start marketing a GAKed encryption
> product domesticly.
>
> A bunch of cypherpunkish types will immediately try to organize a boycott
> against BIG COMPANY.
I think it's more likely that a group of people will work on
breaking Big Co's GAKed product. Either finding a flaw
in it's algorithm or protocol that can be exploited, or
a flaw that renders it's GAK unusable, i.e. Matt Blaze's
LEAF hack on Clipper.
> What are the cypherpunks legal risks?
>
> I seem to remember that back in the 70s, the NAACP lost a big case
>with respect to their boycott in a southern city. As I recall there were people
> in the street begging money for the NAACP because there was a > 10**6 $
> judgement against the NAACP and they needed that much just to appeal.
Well, NAACP is an actual organization with papers filed
with the IRS, officers or some sort of board members, offices, etc.
Cypherpunks is just a mailing list, and many of the members
of the list don't use their real identies on the list.
Who would they go after?
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Eric Murray ericm@lne.com ericm@motorcycle.com http://www.lne.com/ericm
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