NODE 5ac94d11Re: Is ths legal?...
"Declan B. McCullagh" <declan+@CMU.EDU>Mon, 18 Dec 1995 04:31:23 +0800
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer. Harvey is. (And a pretty damn good one, too.)
-Declan
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 14:38:24 +0001 (EST)
From: Harvey A Silverglate <has@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Is ths legal?...
To: "Declan B. McCullagh" <declan+@CMU.EDU>
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Declan -
The answer to the "is this legal?" question is more complex than
simply "private versus public" university. There are fairly strict
federal anti-wiretapping laws. It is hardly clear that a private
university may eavesdrop on students' phone or computer conversations,
even if conducted over the university's network. Furthermore, many
states have their own anti-wiretap and anti-eavesdrop laws, which are
even stricter than federal standards. I don't have the time nor the
inclination to do research into Oklahoma law, but we did some research
into this area of state and federal law for the LaMacchia case and
concluded that in its investigation of David LaMacchia, MIT very well
might have violated federal laws.
Harvey Silverglate
NODE 412f9fb3Re: Is ths legal?...
Ernest Hua <hua@chromatic.com>Tue, 19 Dec 95 19:02:36 PST
> The answer to the "is this legal?" question is more complex than
> simply "private versus public" university. There are fairly strict
> federal anti-wiretapping laws. It is hardly clear that a private
> university may eavesdrop on students' phone or computer conversations,
> even if conducted over the university's network. Furthermore, many
> states have their own anti-wiretap and anti-eavesdrop laws, which are
> even stricter than federal standards. I don't have the time nor the
> inclination to do research into Oklahoma law, but we did some research
> into this area of state and federal law for the LaMacchia case and
> concluded that in its investigation of David LaMacchia, MIT very well
> might have violated federal laws.
It is definitely legal for private entities to have strict control over
their own resources. In particular, it is legal for a company to listen
in on their phone conversations for quality control purposes if they
announce this fact ahead of time (you may have heard such a disclaimer
when you call tech support, for instance).
Also, if a student signs such a waiver acknowledging that the situation
at this school is not necessarily that of the "norm" or of potentially
overriding state or federal law, there is a good chance the student has
signed away their right/priviledge of absolute privacy. Unless there
is serious violation of Constitutional rights or if the contract is
constructed or negotiated in bad faith or in some illegal manner, the
old saying applies: "a contract is a contract".
Ern