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No Privacy Right on "My" Desktop ?

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NODE fb554ffaNo Privacy Right on "My" Desktop ?
Friend, 
 
 
A 12 04 95 The Electronic Telegraph newsstory headlined 
 
            'Spoilsport' software bars games 
 
reports that 
 
   An American company called DVD has developed a utility 
   called UnGame that can delete up to 3,100 games from a 
   computer network.  Even if the game is hidden on the com- 
   puter user's own hard disk, it will find it. 
 
 
The user's own hard disk? 
 
   Although the machines at work usually belong to the com- 
   pany, most employees regard them as an electronic equi- 
   valent of their desk, and are similarly territorial. 
 
 
John Davison, PC Zone editor, says: 
 
   If anyone stole something from your desk you'd be fed up. 
   If anybody stole something from my computer, I'd be equal- 
   ly disgusted. 
 
 
What kind of software is UnGame? 
 
The newsstory suggests the answer: 
 
   ...industry experts have complained that companies may 
   be releasing "tailored viruses".... 
 
 
I believe my first post to the list was about McAfee's Virus 
Blocker.  Perhaps that can be...adapted. 
 
If so, those who then declared the information had nothing 
to do with privacy may continue playing their games. 
 
Of course companies may try another tack: Oracle's "internet 
terminal." 
 
As dlv@bwalk.dm.com pointed out in his 11 18 95 post, 
 
 [I guess, they mean no permanent storage or software other 
 than the browser in ROM. No remembered state, no viruses 
 ... -DV] 
 
 
In "my" terminal. 
 
 
Cordially, 
 
Jim 
 
 
 
NOTE.  The Electronic Telegraph's website URL is: 
 
       http://www.telegraph.co.uk 
 
       The newsstory's online filename is: 
 
       ngame02.htm 

       It was written by: 
 
       ROBERT UHLIG, TECHNOLOGY CORRESPON- 
       DENT 
 
       It first appeared in 12 03 95 The Daily Telegraph. 
 
       The McAfee website URL is: 
 
       http;//www.mcafee.com
NODE b0124bdcRe: No Privacy Right on "My" Desktop ?
"James M. Cobb" writes:
> Friend, 

Enemy,

Please stop now. You are becoming a big time nuisance.

Perry
NODE dc6d2a78Re: No Privacy Right on "My" Desktop ?
"James M. Cobb" <jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com> writes:
...
> Of course companies may try another tack: Oracle's "internet
> terminal."
>
> As dlv@bwalk.dm.com pointed out in his 11 18 95 post,
>
>  [I guess, they mean no permanent storage or software other
>  than the browser in ROM. No remembered state, no viruses
>  ... -DV]
>
> In "my" terminal.

James, I do hope I haven't given you the impression that I *like* the
proposed $500 "Internet appliance". These gizmos with no local permanent
storage are antithetical to privacy. If you use it just to browse the
Web, then your hotlist, history, et al would be kept at the ISP's. Most
ISP's are greedy scum who wouldn't hesitate to sell this info to
database maintainers. E.g., someone who accesses a Web page dealing with
asthma might later receive unsolicited e-mail from a company selling
asthma medicine, or even be turned down for employment because the
medical insurance rates would jump based on his history of accessing an
asthma-related Web page. Of course, this might happen when a regular PC
is used to run a browser, but the "NC" would provide much more
opportunity for such data collection, and little or no possibility to
enhance the device with encryption / anonymity.

Still, I predict that quite a few people will buy these things when they
become available: those whose disposable income can accomodate a $500
NC, but not a $1000 PC; those unwilling to feed/care for a real PC, and
only interested in browsing the net; whatever (let Oracle's marketing
people identify their potential customers). No one knows if they'll sell
enough to make money for their makers. I heard that currently one can
buy add-ons to the Phillips CD-interactive and to the Nintendo/SGI game
machine to turn them into Web browsers. I presume they sell.

What I said was, someone selling an add-on product for the "NC"
providing some degree of privacy (a PGP ROM on the PCMCIA port??) might
make a quick buck. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to try it myself.

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Dr. Dimitri Vulis
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