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NODE 06d617cbRe: "This post is G-Rated"
At  5:33 PM 1/25/96 -0600, Mike McNally wrote:
>Bill Frantz writes:
> > However is should be possible for TV programs
>
>Maybe, until it becomes common for "TV programs" to be accessible by
>URL...

Web sites and TV series can both be rated without seeing each and every
page/show.


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> > and whole newsgroups.
>
>Since nobody "owns" newsgroups, and nobody controls what's posted to
>them, I don't see how that's possible at all.

It seems to me that a moderated news group or mailing list would be easy. 
You don't expect explicit sex descriptions to show up in the comp.
hieararcy.  

An unmoderated group or list carries a higher risk of seeing inappropriate
material.  However even unmoderated lists have standards and those people
who enforce those standards.  This kind of enforcement is an example of
communitarian as opposed to authoritarian control.  It all depends on just
how vital it is to the consumer (and rating group) that NO inappropriate
material appear.

Crypto relevence: Public key systems or digital signitures can help ensure
that the material actually comes from it reputed source (e.g. the
modarator).

Bill
NODE 2b237ddeRe: "This post is G-Rated"
Bill Frantz writes:
 > It seems to me that a moderated news group or mailing list would be easy. 
 > You don't expect explicit sex descriptions to show up in the comp.
 > hieararcy.  

So what's the current moderated/unmoderated newsgroup ratio?  (And
what's the ratio weighted by newsgroup traffic or popularity?)

 > An unmoderated group or list carries a higher risk of seeing inappropriate
 > material.  However even unmoderated lists have standards and those people
 > who enforce those standards.  

Enforce?  Enforce?  Exsqueeze me?

 > This kind of enforcement is an example of
 > communitarian as opposed to authoritarian control.  It all depends on just
 > how vital it is to the consumer (and rating group) that NO inappropriate
 > material appear.

And of course, it doesn't work.  There's an unlimited amount of
mindless dreck floating around every unmoderated nesgroup; I've been
reading news long enough (and NN makes it easy enough) that I avoid it
without a second thought.  I assure you, however, that no attempts at 
"nettiquette enforcement" are effective in a general sense.

 > Crypto relevence: Public key systems or digital signitures can help ensure
 > that the material actually comes from it reputed source (e.g. the
 > modarator).

How many people are there willing to moderate newsgroups?  How many
people are willing to set up alternatives to moderated newsgroups once
the moderator becomes unpopular (see the history of the .telecom
groups for an illustration)?

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