Re: [NOISE] Re: The Big Lie

At 11:54 PM 1/28/96, John F. Fricker wrote:
>My grandfather was drafted towards the end of world war ii. he was a
>doctor and was among the first medical teams to land at anzio. his
>hospital was the first to arrive at auswitz <sp?>. When asked how that
>affected him, my grandmother said "After he returned from the war there
>was no joy left in him."
>
>I do not doubt the existance of prison camps in the third reich. Whether
>the stories have been exaggerated is another question. Besides in this day
>and age where Isreal is a nuclear arsenal run by nutty rightwing warlords
>who in their right mind would dare belittle their tragedies.
.....

You need to read a wider variety of articles, and gain an understanding of
irony used to make a point. I sometimes despair when I get these comments.
(The ones I get in private mail often reveal incurable cluelessness, even
if the correspondents are just high school students who somehow found the
CP list.)

To make it clear to those readers out there who take all posts as literal
(and who didn't read my note at the bottom!), I was not doubting that Jews
were exterminated.

Also, John, you need not quote my entire article at the end of your own
comments. Use your editor to quote only the parts you wish to discuss.

--Tim


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This has no cryptographic relevance whatsoever, but...

tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May) writes:
> You need to read a wider variety of articles, and gain an understanding of
> irony used to make a point. I sometimes despair when I get these comments.
> (The ones I get in private mail often reveal incurable cluelessness, even
> if the correspondents are just high school students who somehow found the
> CP list.)
>
> To make it clear to those readers out there who take all posts as literal
> (and who didn't read my note at the bottom!), I was not doubting that Jews
> were exterminated.

I went to high school in the U.S. (a very unpleasant experience), and we were
more-or-less taught that:

a) Only Jews were killed in the Nazi death camps;
 (actually, Nazis targeted many other groups for extermination, and about
 half the people put to death in the camps weren't Jews.)
b) Nazis made soap/lampshades/mattresses from the fat/skin/hair of their
 victims on industrial scale;
c) Nazis primary goal in conquering the world was to round up and kill all
 the Jews;
d) The U.S. entered the war and defeated Germany almost single-handedly in
 order to save the Jews.

I can very well imagine how a typical American taught to believe the above can
come across a "revisionist" material like _While 6 Million Died_ by Arthur D.
Morse; or hear about Russia's role in defeating the Nazis; and begin to doubt
whether any Jews were murdered at all. That's not good.

I guess this bears some relevance to the subject of credibility.

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