Re: Crippled Notes export encryption

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m5@dev.tivoli.com (Mike McNally) Wrote:
 
> Dan Weinstein writes:
>  > >By the way, I really think Netscape should simply ship Jeff and other
>  > >people to the Amsterdam office...
>  > 
>  > Wrong, this would be a violation of ITAR.
> 
> I don't understand; are you saying Jeff's brain is a munition under
> the ITAR?
> 
> (Is it a citizenship thing?  If so, that's an easily solved problem:
> hire Dutch (or Egyptian or Bangali or whatever) engineers.)

I forget how it is termed in ITAR, but expertise can't be exported 
either.  Another thing to remember is that Jeff and the others at 
Netscape aren't writing the encryption algorithms themselves, they 
implement the code that they get from RSA.  Though most of the 
code they get from RSA is already available abroad, if they wanted to 
import it they would face serious copywrite problems with RSA.  Also, 
like I suggested before any programers who gained their knowledge of 
crypto programing in the U.S. and then went abroad and developed 
crypto software would be in danger of prosecution under ITAR if they 
ever returned to the U.S..

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Dan Weinstein
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In article <199601242348.PAA03565@ns1.vplus.com>,
Dan Weinstein <djw@vplus.com> wrote:
>I forget how it is termed in ITAR, but expertise can't be exported 
>either.  Another thing to remember is that Jeff and the others at 
>Netscape aren't writing the encryption algorithms themselves, they 
>implement the code that they get from RSA.  Though most of the 
>code they get from RSA is already available abroad, if they wanted to 
>import it they would face serious copywrite problems with RSA.  Also, 
>like I suggested before any programers who gained their knowledge of 
>crypto programing in the U.S. and then went abroad and developed 
>crypto software would be in danger of prosecution under ITAR if they 
>ever returned to the U.S..

So how about my situation?  I'm a Canadian student, currently studying
in the US.  Are you saying that if, after I get my degree and return to
Canada, it would be illegal for me to write and export crypto stuff?!
What if I'm in Canada for a few weeks between semesters and I write
something then?

   - Ian "this is all really dumb..."