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"trust management" vs. "certified identity"

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NODE b23df50a"trust management" vs. "certified identity"
The discussions here of the limits of PGP's certification and
revocation model are close to the core of some work I've been doing
(with Joan Feigenbaum and Jack Lacy) on what we call the "trust
management" problem.

Essentially we consider the consequences of abandoning the notion
of "certified identity" implicit in systems like X.509 and PGP and
subsuming identity under the more general umbrella of specifying
and determining what a key is trusted to do.

We've built a system, called "PolicyMaker", that allows the certifier
of a key to specify what the key is trusted to do rather than to
whom the key is trusted to belong.  The same mechanism is also used
to specify and interpret local policies.  The PolicyMaker system
is designed to be called as a service by local applications,
which could be email systems like PGP or network-layer security
protocols or any other application that requires complex trust
relationships.

Some early, local experience suggests that this approach is a good
one.  It's easy to specify X.509- and PGP-style policies and
certificates, but you can also say things like "valid for transactions
over $500 only if countersigned" in a fairly natural way.

I'll be happy to send a (very early) draft of our paper, "Decentralized
trust management" to anyone who's interested.  I've made the draft
available in the CFS-users email archive server.  To request a copy
(PostScript format) by email:
   echo get cfs-users pmdraft.ps | mail cfs-users-request@research.att.com
(For non-unix shell people, just send a message to
	cfs-users-request@research.att.com
With the line:
	get cfs-users pmdraft.ps
in the BODY of the message (NOT on the subject line).)

Comments and discussion appreciated.

This is an early draft, and I'd appreciate it if it not be directly
quoted, cited, or re-distributed.

-matt

PS  We expect to give away our reference implementation, too.  (Probably
by May or so.)  Note that this is just research, and does not represent
any current, past, or future product or service offering on the part
of AT&T or anyone else.
NODE 5717c61fRe: "trust management" vs. "certified identity"
> Comments and discussion appreciated.

This is very interesting stuff -- a big improvement, I think.

I have the impression that pm might look a little bit like an sql server. 
Is that in the ballpark?  Feeding pm an assertion might be analagous to
giving an sql server a command that defines a table, and a pm query might
be similar to an sql command that queries a database.  Whether or not
someone (some key) is allowed to change the assertions would be governed
by assertions that are already in place. 

Or are things going to be setup so that a querying application (like a 
mailer) will feed pm all the information it needs, including assertions, 
each time a query is made?

Although the name of the paper is "decentralized trust management", it
seems to me that the ability to implemenent centralized trust management
schemes would be useful for pm.  Centralized trust management has a lot
going for it as long as no one's being forced to accept it.  I would
expect that in a large organization the rules as well as the identities of
the players would change frequently.  Someone will decree that level j is
no longer sufficient to authorize purchase orders for $5000 or less, level
j+1 will be required in the future.

One advantage of the sql style server is that an organization's trust
manager could implement these changes for lots of work stations centrally,
independently of specific applications (ie., changes could affect all 
mailers).

A particular pm server on a workstation might know about different trust
models from different organizations.  Someone who reads cypherpunks at
work might have a set of assertions that his company's trust manager can
modify, a set of assertions about cypherpunks that Eric can modify, and
another set of assertions about personal correspondence that only the
server's owner can modify.  The server's owner could always do anything he
wanted -- an assertion that says a specific owner key can do anything
would be hardcoded into the system.

Does this make sense?