Delusional

You're disagreeing that I invented safe-tcl?  You disagree that I sent
you and Ousterhout the very first message that said I want to strip out
the dangerous commands?  That I created the mailing list and then gave it
up becuase you and Rose "took over" the concept while only releasing a
safe-Tk, leaving off the embeddeable server part? Must we go to the
archives?  You're disagreeing that without enabled mail FV would probably
not have happened?

IF so, then one of us is delusional and it's not me, kiddo.

Replies to this message will be ignored.
	/r$

PS:  Sorry C-P folks.  In penance for this off-topic probably-uneeded
defense against Nathaniel's attack, I will compare the Usenet RC2
against the licensed code and tell you what I find.  -r$

Excerpts from mail.cypherpunks: 30-Jan-96 Delusional Rich Salz@osf.org (752)

> You're disagreeing that I invented safe-tcl?  You disagree that I sent
> you and Ousterhout the very first message that said I want to strip out
> the dangerous commands?

That's not the way I remember it at all, but I'd be interested in seeing
the archives.  My recollection was that it was invented over breakfast
at an IETF meeting (the Columbus one???  I'm not sure) and that Dave
Crocker and Einar Stefferud were also there, along with Marshall and I. 
If I'm misremembering, I apologize.  Honeslty.  

> You're disagreeing that without enabled mail FV would probably
> not have happened?

Except for the fact that they provided prior evidence that Marshall & I
could work together, I'm not sure how it's relevant.  Yes, we used
safe-tcl to implement our server, but any number of other languages
would have sufficed.... -- Nathaniel
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