NODE d3877904Re: [NOISE] Re: NWLibs> Re: Anonymous trashing of Assassination Politics
jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:08:51 +0800
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At 02:17 AM 1/28/96 -0800, Rich Graves wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Jack Hammer wrote:
>
>> Here might be an interesting example of a snippet from a plot to commit
>> criminal syndicalism.
>
>You know, I'm not really sure whether you're kidding, ignorant, cheering,
>or warning. Frankly, I don't fucking care. You guys are all nuts. And I
>should know -- ask Clark or AlanD.
I guess I should offer a partial apology, even though I'm not really
responsible for this. Jack Hammer is the on-air name for John Benneth, who
is a local (to me, Portland, Oregon) "moderator" for a "advertised as
controversial" radio talk call-in show. He saw my Assassination Politics
essay a few months ago, and for a few weeks just before the November sweeps
Neilsen ratings period he was trying to bait me into calling in, thinking
I'd be a sucker for a local audience. (He _needs_ controversy to be
sucessful.) Since then he gave up for a while, although he occasionally
snipes at me. I assume his interest will wax and wane as various ratings
periods come and go.
>I have saved Jim Bell's "Assassination Politics" essay, with his PGP
>signature, and soon to be a lot of other things, at
>
> http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/
Thank you. I guess...
BTW, I sent the file to you as A16.??? That isn't a really descriptive
name. Please change it to something more mnemonic, like ASPOL.TXT or something.
>I plan to collect as many off-the-wall conspiracy theories in this
>directory as will fit in my disk quota. And when I run out of quota, I'll
>raise it for myself.
Now, now, Rich, "Assassination Politics" is not a "conspiracy theory". Or,
at least, it's not your classic "conspiracy theory."
>I think it's time the wacky right and wacky left started looking at each
>other's Web pages and lurking on each others' lists.
What about the wacky libertarians? Why did you leave us out?!? Waaaaaaahhhh!!!
> It's really funny
>putting two "Anarchist" pages, one featuring Che Guevara, the other
>featuring David Duke, side by side. Both say the guvment is out to get
>them;
I, on the other hand, am out to "get" the government. But you'll be hearing
more about that later.
Jim Bell
Klaatu Burada Nikto
"Something is going to happen... Something....Wonderful!"
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NODE 100ca4cdRe: [NOISE] Re: NWLibs> Re: Anonymous trashing of Assassination Politics
Jack Hammer <jh@teleport.com>Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:12:23 +0800
> I guess I should offer a partial apology, even though I'm not really
> responsible for this. Jack Hammer is the on-air name for Bob Dole, who
> is a local (to me, Portland, Oregon) "moderator" for a "advertised as
> controversial" radio talk call-in show. He saw my Assassination Politics
> essay a few months ago, and for a few weeks just before the November sweeps
> Neilsen ratings period he was trying to bait me into calling in, thinking
> I'd be a sucker for a local audience. (He _needs_ controversy to be
> sucessful.) Since then he gave up for a while, although he occasionally
> snipes at me. I assume his interest will wax and wane as various ratings
> periods come and go.
Occasionally snipes at you? I've been perching here out in front of you
daily now for the last two weeks. We've installed a Washington State phone
line just for you. We've built an AM transmitter and purchased a satellite
connection and bought satellite brodcast time and linked it to the little
princess phone next to your fart sack so you can call us up and share your
wonderful ideas with people in their beds and in their cars all over North
America and you can do all this without having to even roll out of bed.
Now you're saying it hasn't been easy enough for you? How much a minute do
you think this costs us, just waiting for you to call? Oh, others have to
pay to advertise THEIR ideas, in fact they consider the time so valuable
they pay for that time by the second, but has anyone asked Jim Bell for as
much as one thin dime for any of our time?
Not anyone at all.
Jim Bell, you're ducking this the same way you ducked my hat when I was
passin' it around for Richard Gray.
Perhaps being cheap goes hand in hand with intellectual cowardice.
For two weeks now, 10 days, we've been sitting down here just waiting
for you to call (360) 693-5539 between 6:00 AM and 8:00 AM PST to put you
on the air live. And no, I won't cut you off. If you're such a shy fellow
I will promise to not even argue with you, just let you blow anything you
want but obcenities as long as you stay on topic.
But you're not going to call. You won't discuss your idea in public, which
is nothing more than a plan to commit murder for political purposes, i.e.
racketeering. You seem to think that we'll accept your plan as the way to
open the gateways to a new universe of warmth and roses. What it is is the
doorway to a hell full of more drive by shootings and reprisals and
paranoia and fear. And seeing the comatose response from most of the people
on these lists demonstrates to me just how close the society is to letting
something like that which you propose actually happen.
> Klaatu Burada Nikto
>
> "Something is going to happen... Something....Wonderful!"
Yeah, right, at least now we know that it's not going to be a phone call.
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