NODE 45fc9a8cRe: Crippled Notes export encryption
tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:13:13 +0800
At 7:25 AM 1/25/96, Lucky Green wrote:
>The big companies are fighting? Where did you get that idea? IBM/Lotus just
>gave the feds the keys. Not a single one of the major players has
>challenged the government in any meaningful way. Sure, they make a lot of
>noise as to how they dislike the regulations, but they certainly aren't
>making a sincere effort of trying to change them.
I have several pieces of evidence which suggest to me that the government
is leaning on companies in ways which are not always apparent. (I can't
share all of the evidence I have...I know this is unsatisfying. I'm not
asking you to "trust me," just noting that this is what I have either heard
from usually reliable sources or from direct participants.)
I am reluctant to ascribe malice to any of the players in this drama, just
differing goals (in the Great Game).
--Tim
Boycott espionage-enabled software!
We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed.
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NODE d9dcc755Re: Crippled Notes export encryption
Eric Blossom <eb@comsec.com>Sat, 27 Jan 1996 09:27:46 +0800
Tim May says:
> I have several pieces of evidence which suggest to me that the government
> is leaning on companies in ways which are not always apparent. (I can't
> share all of the evidence I have...I know this is unsatisfying. I'm not
> asking you to "trust me," just noting that this is what I have either heard
> from usually reliable sources or from direct participants.)
I just got back from the AFCEA show. Lotus was there demonstrating
Lotus Notes V4 DMS (Defense Messaging System). They've hacked it to
be DMS complaint (I think that that means mostly that they support
X.400 addressing, X.500 directory services and use a Fortezza card to
encrypt and sign)...
There are a lots of folks involved in the DMS game. Loral is the prime
contractor. ESL, Lotus and Microsoft are providing UA's (front ends).
Eric