NODE 07a6aafcNovel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
abostick@netcom.com (Alan Bostick)Sat, 13 Jan 1996 03:33:21 +0800
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Somebody, too clever for their own good by half, has come up with a
novel way of using Usenet and anonymous remailers to perpetrate
mailbombs. The M.O. is to post a message to the naked-lady newsgroups
saying "get pics in your mailbox! send this message to this address!),
giving the email address of a cypherpunk-style anonymous remailer and
including a pgp-encrypted message block.
Thousands of horny net geeks will send in the message; some of them
will even follow instructions correctly so the remailer forwards the
message to its intended target. The result is that the target will
be mailbombed -- and the remailer operator can't stop the abuse by
blocking the abuser's address, because it's coming from all over the
net.
There is *no* chance that this is legitimate. The remailer discards the
original message header. There is no way for the recipient to know who
sent the email message.
Cypherpunks: is there any way to respond to, or prevent, this sort of
attack short of actually shutting down the remailer?
What comes to my mind is the remailer operator grepping for a character
string of ASCII-armored cyphertext from the known attack message and
throwing messages containing it into the bit-bucket. It is highly
unlikely that this would appear in any message except the attack
message. The problem with this is that it works only for a known attack
message -- it can shut down an ongoing attack, but it can't prevent new
ones.
I am including the widely-crossposted attack message below, including headers.
Alan Bostick | He played the king as if afraid someone else
Seeking opportunity to | would play the ace.
develop multimedia content. | John Mason Brown, drama critic
Finger abostick@netcom.com for more info and PGP public key
> Xref: netcom.com alt.sex:292849 alt.sex.wizards:44144 alt.sex.magazines:11634 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica:364153 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes:48686 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female:130066 alt.sex.movies:91249 alt.sex.pictures:98757
> Newsgroups: alt.sex,alt.sex.wizards,alt.sex.magazines,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female,alt.sex.movies,alt.sex.pictures
> Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!luzskru.cpcnet.com!www-39-190
> From: luzskru@cpcnet.com (luzskru)
> Subject: Get Penthouse and Playboy pics on your mail box!!
> Message-ID: <1b7cc$12a26.20@luzskru.cpcnet.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:10:37 GMT
> Organization: http://www.cpcnet.com/~luzskru/home.htm
> X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4
> Lines: 119
>
> Follow these instructions.
> 1) paste everything between the -------- into the body of your message. Be
> sure to leave the first line blank and include everything including the ::
> 2) Send the message to homer@rahul.net
> 3) as the subject, specify playboy or penthouse and the month.
> 4) if you don't get the file within a few hours, then send it again and be
> sure that you didn't do something wrong. Here is the message:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> ::
> Encrypted: pgp
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Include everthing between the ------------------------------- and you will get
> the pictures in your mail box.
>
>
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NODE ef85149dRe: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>Fri, 12 Jan 96 12:58:43 PST
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regarding remailer spams:
one way to prevent this sort of spamming is to put a cap on the number
of messages that can be delivered to a given address. of course, an
exception will have to be made for instances of chaining so that the
number of messages allowed to be forwarded to another remailer is not
limited.
i'm trying to think of a scenario where this would not be a good
thing. i suppose if somone was conducting an anonymous poll their
address should not have a limit.
i'm sure there are problems with a mesg quota system, but it does seem
like an easy solution.
- -pjf
patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu
U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA!
** FINGER zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for pgp public key - CRYPTO!
zifi runs LINUX 1.3.56 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu
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NODE 85532bf7Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
Jay Holovacs <holovacs@styx.ios.com>Sat, 13 Jan 1996 11:14:31 +0800
On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, zinc wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> regarding remailer spams:
>
> one way to prevent this sort of spamming is to put a cap on the number
> of messages that can be delivered to a given address. of course, an
> exception will have to be made for instances of chaining so that the
> number of messages allowed to be forwarded to another remailer is not
> limited.
>
> i'm trying to think of a scenario where this would not be a good
> thing. i suppose if somone was conducting an anonymous poll their
> address should not have a limit.
>
> i'm sure there are problems with a mesg quota system, but it does seem
> like an easy solution.
>
Unrelated legitimate messages may arrive after the 'limit ' has been reached.
Jay Holovacs <holovacs@ios.com>
PGP Key fingerprint = AC 29 C8 7A E4 2D 07 27 AE CA 99 4A F6 59 87 90
(KEY id 1024/80E4AA05) email me for key
NODE e5c73b66Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>Fri, 12 Jan 96 18:53:31 PST
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On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Jay Holovacs wrote:
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 21:31:27 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jay Holovacs <holovacs@styx.ios.com>
> To: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>
> Cc: Alan Bostick <abostick@netcom.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, zinc wrote:
>
> > regarding remailer spams:
> >
> > one way to prevent this sort of spamming is to put a cap on the number
> > of messages that can be delivered to a given address. of course, an
> > exception will have to be made for instances of chaining so that the
> > number of messages allowed to be forwarded to another remailer is not
> > limited.
> >
> > i'm trying to think of a scenario where this would not be a good
> > thing. i suppose if somone was conducting an anonymous poll their
> > address should not have a limit.
> >
> > i'm sure there are problems with a mesg quota system, but it does seem
> > like an easy solution.
> >
> Unrelated legitimate messages may arrive after the 'limit ' has been reached.
i realize this is an obvious problem. although this is a weakness,
i'm not sure it would really matter. if a person was going to be
doing something on the net they expected would generate a lot of anon
traffic they could notifiy the remailer operators. this has other
weaknesses related to forgeries but there's only so much that can be
done...
obviously this is not going to be an easy problem to solve.
- -pjf
patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu
U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA!
** FINGER zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for pgp public key - CRYPTO!
zifi runs LINUX 1.3.56 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu
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NODE b3a62244Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:34:53 +0800
On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Alan Bostick wrote:
> Somebody, too clever for their own good by half, has come up with a
> novel way of using Usenet and anonymous remailers to perpetrate
> mailbombs. The M.O. is to post a message to the naked-lady newsgroups
> saying "get pics in your mailbox! send this message to this address!),
> giving the email address of a cypherpunk-style anonymous remailer and
> including a pgp-encrypted message block.
Yuck.
Unless someone comes forward to say that they were the target of this
attack, I'd guess that the target is the remailer network itself.
> > Xref: netcom.com alt.sex:292849 alt.sex.wizards:44144 alt.sex.magazines:11634 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica:364153 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes:48686 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female:130066 alt.sex.movies:91249 alt.sex.pictures:98757
> > Newsgroups: alt.sex,alt.sex.wizards,alt.sex.magazines,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female,alt.sex.movies,alt.sex.pictures
> > Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!luzskru.cpcnet.com!www-39-190
> > From: luzskru@cpcnet.com (luzskru)
> > Subject: Get Penthouse and Playboy pics on your mail box!!
> > Message-ID: <1b7cc$12a26.20@luzskru.cpcnet.com>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:10:37 GMT
> > Organization: http://www.cpcnet.com/~luzskru/home.htm
> > X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4
> > Lines: 119
This article is still on nntp.stanford.edu. I've issued a cancel. Sites far
removed from stanford.edu should consider doing the same.
luzskru@cpcnet.com, of course, doesn't exist, *BUT* there is a
luzskru.cpcnet.com in the DNS.
And while every other port seems to be closed, there is an open NNTP port.
N:~> telnet luzskru.cpcnet.com nntp
Trying 198.70.185.5...
Connected to luzskru.cpcnet.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 luzskru.cpcnet.com NNS server version X2.06 ready - posting allowed
quit
205 closing connection - goodbye
Connection closed by foreign host.
postmaster@cpcnet.com is probably a victim of this, but he should still be
flayed with a wet noodle for letting this happen.
-rich
NODE 87b02707Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com>Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:22:07 +0800
Rich Graves writes:
>
> On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Alan Bostick wrote:
>
> > Somebody, too clever for their own good by half, has come up with a
> > novel way of using Usenet and anonymous remailers to perpetrate
> > mailbombs. The M.O. is to post a message to the naked-lady newsgroups
> > saying "get pics in your mailbox! send this message to this address!),
> > giving the email address of a cypherpunk-style anonymous remailer and
> > including a pgp-encrypted message block.
>
> Yuck.
>
> Unless someone comes forward to say that they were the target of this
> attack, I'd guess that the target is the remailer network itself.
The target, Homer Wilson Smith, is one of the people embroiled in
the Scientology wars. I don't want to get into the recent history
of repression and abuse by Scientology agents & sympathizers, but
my guess is that this is an attempt to harass someone that
Scientology doesn't like.
They (Scientology) have shown a remarkable ability to grasp both the
technical details and social implications of the Internet and use them
to harass ex "church" members and people who say things that they
don't like. The "church" undoubtably hates remailers because so many
of their critics post anonymously through them. But as they discovered
with Usenet news, the same technology can be used to harass those
critics.
I think we'll see more ingenous attacks like this, using CP-tech in
perverted ways to harass people. Annoying for sure, but helpful in
a way- they'll help debug the technology. Like cipherpunks hacking
Netscape, in the end it just makes it stronger.
--
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NODE 28dfca52Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:47:48 +0800
I did an AltaVista search for "luzskru" and found it on a list of known
open NNTP sites. They're almost certainly blameless.
The list, btw, is http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~jwa/open-sites.html
Cc'd to the guy who generates that list. In case he doesn't know,
cypherpunks is browseable at news://nntp.hks.net/hks.lists.cypherpunks
-rich
NODE 2844f7c9Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
lull@acm.org (John Lull)Sat, 13 Jan 1996 07:08:15 +0800
On Fri, 12 Jan 1996 10:55:12 -0800, you wrote:
> Cypherpunks: is there any way to respond to, or prevent, this sort of
> attack short of actually shutting down the remailer?
Yes, very simply.
The remailer could calculate a hash for the body of each encrypted
message received (the same portion which will be decrypted by PGP),
tabulate the last few thousand hashes, and simply discard any messages
with a duplicate hash. The target of the attack would receive only
the first copy of the message.
NODE 0390afc4Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
"Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]" <erc@dal1820.computek.net>Sat, 13 Jan 1996 15:50:45 +0800
> The remailer could calculate a hash for the body of each encrypted
> message received (the same portion which will be decrypted by PGP),
> tabulate the last few thousand hashes, and simply discard any messages
> with a duplicate hash. The target of the attack would receive only
> the first copy of the message.
That wouldn't keep the mailer from getting choked up pretty quickly,
though, especially if it's on the end of a < T1 line.
--
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NODE 8df3f4c9Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
lull@acm.org (John Lull)Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:12:09 +0800
On Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:25:53 GMT, I wrote:
> The remailer could calculate a hash for the body of each encrypted
> message received (the same portion which will be decrypted by PGP),
> tabulate the last few thousand hashes, and simply discard any messages
> with a duplicate hash. The target of the attack would receive only
> the first copy of the message.
To refine this a bit further, the hash need not cover the entire
message. It could be sped up a bit by restricting it to the header
containing the encrypted session key. Since the session key is
selected randomly, that header (and its hash) should be unique for
every message.
The hash values could also be retained for a fixed period of time --
perhaps 23 hours -- following the most recent receipt of a given hash.
Thus a message could be repeated by the legitimate sender after a
delay of 24 hours, and would be forwarded. The original sender could
re-encrypt the message (thus changing its hash) earlier than that, and
it would be properly forwarded. A canned message on the other hand,
being sent from multiple locations, would likely be received more
often than this and not forwarded after the first time, even if each
sender only sent it once a day.
You could even penalize messages for which you've received massive
dupes, by extending the hash retention time by, say, 12 hours for each
dupe received. If you got a message 100 times in one day, you'd
refuse to forward any duplicates for nearly 2 months. This would take
care of those on vacation at the time of the original attack, and
those with very slow news feeds.
NODE 987143d8Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
abostick@netcom.com (Alan Bostick)Sat, 13 Jan 1996 11:12:40 +0800
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If "digital postage" is ever implemented, this sort of
distributed-origin mailbomb-through-a-remailer would be stopped
immediately. All the messages that the horny net geeks send would
necessarily contain the same postage stamp, and the remailer would
notice this right away -- and throw away messages containing the used
postage stamp.
One more motivation for e$-like digital postage for remailers.
- --
Alan Bostick | He played the king as if afraid someone else
Seeking opportunity to | would play the ace.
develop multimedia content. | John Mason Brown, drama critic
Finger abostick@netcom.com for more info and PGP public key
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NODE 9d6915f3Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
Adam Shostack <adam@lighthouse.homeport.org>Sun, 14 Jan 1996 05:30:12 +0800
Some remailers (read: Mixmaster) include a destination.block capability.
The target can be taught about mail filters.
The target can ask the remailer op to remove the particular
alias, after verifying that he receives mail sent to it. Too clever
by half solutions such as ZKP would work, as would the remailer-op
sending an arbitrary message encrypted to the complainer to the
address in question. If the complainer gets the message, either he's
sniffing well, mucking with the DNS, or is the intended recipient of
the nym server.
Adam
Alan Bostick wrote:
| Thousands of horny net geeks will send in the message; some of them
| will even follow instructions correctly so the remailer forwards the
| message to its intended target. The result is that the target will
| be mailbombed -- and the remailer operator can't stop the abuse by
| blocking the abuser's address, because it's coming from all over the
| net.
| Cypherpunks: is there any way to respond to, or prevent, this sort of
| attack short of actually shutting down the remailer?
--
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-Hume