Re: Online Zakat Payment: Religious tithe.

At 10:07 PM 2/12/96, Steven C. Perkins wrote:
>Cyber-Anarchists aren't the only ones who can use the Net.
>
>>--- Forwarded message follows ---
>>From: zakat@dircon.co.uk (Sohail Mohammed)
>>Subject: Online Zakat Payment
...
>>Zakat collection and distribution is not a free-enterprise do-it-yourself
>>project. Khalifa AbuBakr (RA) went to war against those people who did
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>>not want to pay Zakat to the central authority and who instead wanted to
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>>do it 'their-way'.

I think it safe to say the ragheads want their taxes (= "Zakat") collected,
and they will block any schemes which attempt to bypass their tax
collectors. They are enemies of Cypherpunks, but then we all knew that a
long time ago.

>>The long term strategy is that we Muslims need a major presence in
>>cyberspace. This would include intelligent agents (robots, sheriffs,)
>>roaming cyberspace collecting Zakat funds and Jihad funds and doing other
>>things we can't yet imagaine. Islamic Gateway http://www.ummah.org.uk

Yes, such as collecting funds to send to Jim Bell to arrange for the
assassination of Salman Rushdie.

Once again, the gutter religion of Islam reveals the derangement of its
so-called Prophet.

The world really needs to get around to nuking these folks.

--Tim May


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On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:

> At 10:07 PM 2/12/96, Steven C. Perkins wrote:
> Once again, the gutter religion of Islam reveals the derangement of its
> so-called Prophet.
> 
> The world really needs to get around to nuking these folks.
> 
Oh, Come now!  Islam may in its present form be a religion deeply hostile 
to liberty.  But since "nuking" the whole Islamic world would not be 
itself much of a defence of freedom, the only long term answer is to 
promote within Islam the same kind of Reformation as eventually made 
Christianity half decent.  And Tim's comments do not contribute to that.  
I don't know how many internet servers there are in the Middle East.  
But, if I were an intelligent fundamentalist, I'd be copying it all over 
the place.  "Look", I'd be saying, "these people really do mean another 
crusade to destroy us and our faith".

I can understand Tim's disgust with these people.  But I do question his 
manner of expressing it.

On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:

> 
> Yes, such as collecting funds to send to Jim Bell to arrange for the
> assassination of Salman Rushdie.
> 
> Once again, the gutter religion of Islam reveals the derangement of its
> so-called Prophet.
> 
> The world really needs to get around to nuking these folks.

Nuke *Fulham*? I thought you might have picked up a few tidbits from the
last nukepunks thread, but just in case- despite what you may have heard,
nuclear weapons are not precision tools. A device dropped on Fulham would
probably not be welcomed by Her Majesty's Government, although since the
blast damage would probably level Kensington Palace to the ground, it
would solve the Diana problem. 


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> Once again, the gutter religion of Islam reveals the derangement of its
> so-called Prophet.


    Get a grip, Tim. This is not the real you. I hope.