Re: Reasons in support of crypto-anarchy WAS Re: Why am I (fwd)

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At 08:07 PM 2/7/96 -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

>Look folks, I'm really sick about the debate about Jim's ideas about
>"assassination politics". (My opinion about the idea isn't
>transmittable under the Exon law so I couldn't say anything anyway).
>
>This has gone off into political theory. Could we take it to private
>mail or some such?

Apparently, other people are just as unhappy with your attempts to act as 
"moderator" of this list.  Wake up!  Freedom is on the line.

Klaatu B
urada Nikto.

Jim Bell

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jim bell writes:
> >This has gone off into political theory. Could we take it to private
> >mail or some such?
> 
> Apparently, other people are just as unhappy with your attempts to act as 
> "moderator" of this list.  Wake up!  Freedom is on the line.

You are annoying me. How much do people want to bet someone kills 
Jim Bell in the next six months?

Perry

> jim bell writes:
> > >This has gone off into political theory. Could we take it to private
> > >mail or some such?
> > 
> > Apparently, other people are just as unhappy with your attempts to act as 
> > "moderator" of this list.  Wake up!  Freedom is on the line.
> 
> You are annoying me. How much do people want to bet someone kills 
> Jim Bell in the next six months?
> 
> Perry

Is this an implied threat?  Do you always threaten people who annoy you 
with death?

What does this have to do with crypto, anyway?  Take it off-list, Perry...

How does it feel to get your own medicine?
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"Past the wounds of childhood, past the fallen dreams and the broken families,
through the hurt and the loss and the agony only the night ever hears, is a
waiting soul.  Patient, permanent, abundant, it opens its infinite heart and
asks only one thing of you ... 'Remember who it is you really are.'"

                    -- "Losing Your Mind", Karen Alexander and Rick Boyes

The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability.
		    -- Andrew Spring
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their evil influence, thus keeping America "ideologically pure".

"Ed Carp, KHIJOL SysAdmin" writes:
> Is this an implied threat?  Do you always threaten people who annoy you 
> with death?
> 
> What does this have to do with crypto, anyway?  Take it off-list, Perry...

Ed, Let me make one thing about you perfectly clear.

Plonk.

Perry

> Ed, Let me make one thing about you perfectly clear.
> 
> Plonk.

"Plonk"?  What does that mean?  Does that mean you're going to hit me 
with something?  Sounds like another implied threat to me... ;)

Funniest thing I've heard all day... ;)
--
Ed Carp, N7EKG    			Ed.Carp@linux.org, ecarp@netcom.com
					214/993-3935 voicemail/digital pager
					800/558-3408 SkyPager
Finger ecarp@netcom.com for PGP 2.5 public key		an88744@anon.penet.fi

"Past the wounds of childhood, past the fallen dreams and the broken families,
through the hurt and the loss and the agony only the night ever hears, is a
waiting soul.  Patient, permanent, abundant, it opens its infinite heart and
asks only one thing of you ... 'Remember who it is you really are.'"

                    -- "Losing Your Mind", Karen Alexander and Rick Boyes

The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability.
		    -- Andrew Spring
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to the Communications Decency Act, these are the words you may
no longer use in your Internet correspondence:  Shit, piss, fuck, cunt,
cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits. The use of shit, piss, fuck, cunt,
cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits, may now earn you a substantial fine
as well as possible jail time, should President Clinton sign this Bill
into law.  Please refrain from using shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock-sucker,
mother-fucker and tits, to protect your children as well as others, from
their evil influence, thus keeping America "ideologically pure".

> 
> > Ed, Let me make one thing about you perfectly clear.
> > 
> > Plonk.
> 
> "Plonk"?  What does that mean?  Does that mean you're going to hit me 
> with something?  Sounds like another implied threat to me... ;)

"Plonk" is Perry's way of admitting he's really just an alias
for David Sternlight....

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Ed Carp <erc@dal1820.computek.net> writes:
> > Ed, Let me make one thing about you perfectly clear.
> >
> > Plonk.
>
> "Plonk"?  What does that mean?  Does that mean you're going to hit me
> with something?  Sounds like another implied threat to me... ;)

This is the imaginary sound one makes when hitting the killfile.

(I wish I could run procmail on this box...)

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I am sorry, but your message with the Subject:

	Re: Reasons in support of crypto-anarchy WAS Re: Why am I (fwd) 

was rejected by Perry Metzger's mail filter and will not be read by
him. This is likely because Perry decided to place you on his reject
list. Perry tends to clean out his filter lists every six months, so
you may be able to send him electronic mail again sometime in the
future.

If you absolutely need to contact Perry, please use means other than
electronic mail, or ask a third party to contact him on your behalf.

You will not receive further copies of this notice.

Perry's Mail Filter

So, Ed Carp couldn't leave well enough alone. I killfiled him and
apparently he had the bad taste to send me some mail about it, and
when my robot replied to him informing him that I had no interest in
whatever he might have had to say, he seems to have a desperate need
to get in the last word by forwarding the message from my robot to the
mailing list.

Mr. Carp, you've got extremely bad taste. Luckily, I don't have to
ever see anything you have to say ever again.

Perry


"Perry's Mail Filter" writes:
> 
> I am sorry, but your message with the Subject:
> 
> 	Re: Reasons in support of crypto-anarchy WAS Re: Why am I (fwd) 
> 
> was rejected by Perry Metzger's mail filter and will not be read by
> him. This is likely because Perry decided to place you on his reject
> list. Perry tends to clean out his filter lists every six months, so
> you may be able to send him electronic mail again sometime in the
> future.
> 
> If you absolutely need to contact Perry, please use means other than
> electronic mail, or ask a third party to contact him on your behalf.
> 
> You will not receive further copies of this notice.
> 
> Perry's Mail Filter
> 
>

> So, Ed Carp couldn't leave well enough alone. I killfiled him and
> apparently he had the bad taste to send me some mail about it, and

Actually, I hit 'g' instead of 'r', so the response seen here was posted 
also.  Perry distorts.

> when my robot replied to him informing him that I had no interest in
> whatever he might have had to say, he seems to have a desperate need
> to get in the last word by forwarding the message from my robot to the
> mailing list.

Actually, I thought it would be instructive as to the rather, err, unique 
wording of Perry's robot.  I've seen a lot funnier, though?

> Mr. Carp, you've got extremely bad taste. Luckily, I don't have to
> ever see anything you have to say ever again.

Why, thank you, Perry!  I'll be sure to mention the fact that you think I 
have bad ... excuse me, "extremely bad taste" in my next performance 
review.  I'm sure it will affect the outcome immeasurably. ;)
--
Ed Carp, N7EKG    			Ed.Carp@linux.org, ecarp@netcom.com
					214/993-3935 voicemail/digital pager
					800/558-3408 SkyPager
Finger ecarp@netcom.com for PGP 2.5 public key		an88744@anon.penet.fi

"Past the wounds of childhood, past the fallen dreams and the broken families,
through the hurt and the loss and the agony only the night ever hears, is a
waiting soul.  Patient, permanent, abundant, it opens its infinite heart and
asks only one thing of you ... 'Remember who it is you really are.'"

                    -- "Losing Your Mind", Karen Alexander and Rick Boyes

The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability.
		    -- Andrew Spring
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to the Communications Decency Act, these are the words you may
no longer use in your Internet correspondence:  Shit, piss, fuck, cunt,
cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits. The use of shit, piss, fuck, cunt,
cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits, may now earn you a substantial fine
as well as possible jail time, should President Clinton sign this Bill
into law.  Please refrain from using shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock-sucker,
mother-fucker and tits, to protect your children as well as others, from
their evil influence, thus keeping America "ideologically pure".

Ed Carp <erc@dal1820.computek.net> writes:
> > Mr. Carp, you've got extremely bad taste. Luckily, I don't have to
> > ever see anything you have to say ever again.
>
> Why, thank you, Perry!  I'll be sure to mention the fact that you think I
> have bad ... excuse me, "extremely bad taste" in my next performance
> review.  I'm sure it will affect the outcome immeasurably. ;)

I see we're into cannibalism now...
 "I don't like your chief."
 "If you don't like him, don't eat him."

I envy Perry and wish I had procmail for (DOS) Waffle.

One of the many things that I dislike about Americans is their pronounced
tendency to express pride in their ignorance; as in, "I've never heard of
X's work, and I'm proud of it!". Now, that's tasteless.

The crypto relevance of the above remark is that this mailing list appears
to have been invaded by non-technical people who don't know anything about
cryptography beyond what they may have read in Schneier, who don't write code,
and who contribute nothing but childish flames and censorship attempts.

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