NODE ae96be85Re: PGP backdoor? (No, I'm not paranoid.)
jf_avon@citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada))Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:16:31 +0800
perry@piermont.com wrote:
>
>Mark Bainter writes:
<snip>
>> However, this guy tells me
>> that he met Phil at defcon and phil told him that he co-operated with
>> the government and gave them information that would enable them to crack
>> key's for versions later than 2.3. I don't know whether to believe him
>> or not,
>Your informant is taking extremely good drugs. You should find out who
>his connection is should you want to get any.
>
>Perry
Dear Perry,
many peoples hear many things. The difficult part is to figure out what
is the validity of what ones hears. I personnally heard a things or two,
even if I am not involved in any way in the trade of crypto. I heard them
through outside channels, completely independently from any crypto-activist, wether pro or con (CPunks et al or Govt). Theses sources are of utmost
qualifications. Wether or not there is a "vast conspiracy" either to make
us believe that, for an example, PGP *is* or *is not* crackable we *do not*
know. Every side have vested interests. Many opinions that PGP is secure
rest on *actual* evaluation of our computing capabilities, actual or
forecasted. And experts are *very often* wrong. Have a look at history
of sciences... You'll realize that most accomplishments were held as
impossible even shortly before they were discovered/created. Such is the
history of intra-abdominal surgery, of space flight and of many other
knowledge and/or technology.
In most instances of life, it is much wiser to realize that *we do not know*
and accepting ignorance as such rather than adopting the first tempting
rationalization that comes to mind. Because in the former case, you still
have the possibility to enhance life by learning, while in the second, you
can only hope that you did not adopt a wrong belief that will eventually
cost you dearly.
Remember, when an ostrich puts it's head in the sand, which part of it's
anatomy it is showing to the world...
So, why waste bandwith with a post that apparently mainly seems to be aimed
at dismissing somebody but brings *absolutely no* new knowledge to
the discussion? Please, next time, post privately.
Funny jokes are, IMHO, welcome because they have some life-enhancing value.
So please, at least be funny...
Your post makes me wonder for what terribly conspiring organisation
are you working for...
JFA
The collectivists be DAMNED!
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NODE bfe7a799Re: PGP backdoor? (No, I'm not paranoid.)
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:30:59 +0800
Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada) writes:
>
> many peoples hear many things. The difficult part is to figure out what
> is the validity of what ones hears. I personnally heard a things or two,
> even if I am not involved in any way in the trade of crypto. I heard them
> through outside channels, completely independently from any crypto-activist,
> wether pro or con (CPunks et al or Govt). Theses sources are of utmost
> qualifications. Wether or not there is a "vast conspiracy" either to make
> us believe that, for an example, PGP *is* or *is not* crackable we *do not*
> know.
Whether there is a conspiracy to convince people to believe things
about PGP or not, there is no need to take PGP's characteristics on
faith. You can get out the source code and read it.
> Many opinions that PGP is secure rest on *actual* evaluation of our
> computing capabilities, actual or forecasted. And experts are *very
> often* wrong. Have a look at history of sciences... You'll realize
> that most accomplishments were held as impossible even shortly
> before they were discovered/created.
No change in algorithms occurred between PGP 2.3 and later versions,
so any claim that it was made breakable at that point cannot be made
on the basis that computing power is somehow now able to crack it when
it could not do so before.
> So, why waste bandwith with a post that apparently mainly seems to be aimed
> at dismissing somebody but brings *absolutely no* new knowledge to
> the discussion? Please, next time, post privately.
I'm sorry, but I am bringing knowledge to the discussion. It is my
personal knowledge that PGP was built as well as the people who built
it knew how, and that it is believed to be free from major flaws by
them and those who have examined it. I do not believe that PGP is
totally bug free, and a subtle flaw in, say, the PRNG, or some other
spot, is not impossible. However, no such flaws were put in place
deliberately, and if such flaws exist they have escaped the notice of
literally hundreds of people examining the source code for problems.
Perry