Likely application for high-bandwidth proxies (fwd)

It would appear that a potentially very popular application for high-
bandwidth anonymizing proxies has arrived: 

Forwarded message from list-managers-digest:
> From: Project Genesis <genesis@j51.com>
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 02:42:13 -0500
> Subject: Speaking of spams...
> 
> Did I mention that Project Genesis is an organization specializing in
> religious education?  The message below explains why all of our public lists
> are moderated. I value privacy and have grave doubts about things like the
> Exon amendment (which may make Internet providers liable), but I also think
> that we need to ensure that the Internet not become one big red-light
> district. Spams like this are a step in the wrong direction. It hit several
> of our religion-oriented lists.
> 
> Ken
> 
> >Sender: kristina@free.org          [User Unknown - I told her to go away.]
> >Subject: LIVE NUDE VIDEOCONFERENCING!
> >
> >Hi,
> >My name is Kristina.  I'm a nude model and I'd
> >love to take my clothes off and entertain you.
> >You can watch me live and in color on your 
> >computer.  We can type back and forth and I'll
> >be happy to perform your erotic fantasy.  If
> >this sounds like fun, visit the website and
> >download the software. The address is
> >http://www.[I don't plan to help them].com or you can get the
> >software from the BBS at 815-[ditto].  I'll
> >turn the camera on in my studio and wait to 
> >hear from you.  I think you'll like what I have
> >to show you.  This isn't a movie...you make a
> >request and I'll probably fulfill it for you.
> >Look for my picture on the Website.  Hope to 
> >see you soon!
> >
> >Love,
> >Kristina

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996 lmccarth@cs.umass.edu wrote:

> It would appear that a potentially very popular application for high-
> bandwidth anonymizing proxies has arrived: 
>

	come on Lewis...  where's the sight <sic> address? 

	on a little more serious point; the use of multiple high
    bandwidth proxies is fast becoming essential to screen your
    address from the enquiring target, thereby forcing the Feds to
    use either very extensive sniffers or the power of the subpoena (not 
    much luck if the records disappear nightly...).  The only clinker is 
    the big sites are startig to require registration with legal warnings 
    --next of course is payment and they want a credit card --not a check
    or cybercash --a credit card for open debit. 

		attila
 
> Forwarded message from list-managers-digest:
> > From: Project Genesis <genesis@j51.com>
> > Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 02:42:13 -0500
> > Subject: Speaking of spams...
> > 
> > Did I mention that Project Genesis is an organization specializing in
> > religious education?  The message below explains why all of our public lists
> > are moderated. I value privacy and have grave doubts about things like the
> > Exon amendment (which may make Internet providers liable), but I also think
> > that we need to ensure that the Internet not become one big red-light
> > district. Spams like this are a step in the wrong direction. It hit several
> > of our religion-oriented lists.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > >Sender: kristina@free.org          [User Unknown - I told her to go away.]
> > >Subject: LIVE NUDE VIDEOCONFERENCING!
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >My name is Kristina.  I'm a nude model and I'd
> > >love to take my clothes off and entertain you.
> > >You can watch me live and in color on your 
> > >computer.  We can type back and forth and I'll
> > >be happy to perform your erotic fantasy.  If
> > >this sounds like fun, visit the website and
> > >download the software. The address is
> > >http://www.[I don't plan to help them].com or you can get the
> > >software from the BBS at 815-[ditto].  I'll
> > >turn the camera on in my studio and wait to 
> > >hear from you.  I think you'll like what I have
> > >to show you.  This isn't a movie...you make a
> > >request and I'll probably fulfill it for you.
> > >Look for my picture on the Website.  Hope to 
> > >see you soon!
> > >
> > >Love,
> > >Kristina
> 

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_________________________________________________________________ attila__

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attila writes:
> 	come on Lewis...  where's the sight <sic> address? 

Project Genesis <genesis@j51.com> forwarded:
> > > >http://www.[I don't plan to help them].com 

I didn't obfuscate the URL; that was done by the person who forwarded the
message to list-managers (where I saw it). Maybe you can find it with Alta
Vista. Since they were apparently spamming mailing lists, maybe someone has
already pulled the plug on them.

-Lewis	"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage" -Smashing P'kins

On Tue, 6 Feb 1996 lmccarth@cs.umass.edu wrote:

> attila writes:
> > 	come on Lewis...  where's the sight <sic> address? 
> 
> Project Genesis <genesis@j51.com> forwarded:
> > > > >http://www.[I don't plan to help them].com 
> 

	just raggin' -what the hell do I need with phony hamburger on the
    screen when I have steak at home?


> I didn't obfuscate the URL; that was done by the person who forwarded the
> message to list-managers (where I saw it). Maybe you can find it with Alta
> Vista. Since they were apparently spamming mailing lists, maybe someone has
> already pulled the plug on them.
>
	plug pulling for spamming --sure; but for the rest, everyone to 
    their own taste (whew, that was bitter....)
 
> -Lewis "Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage" -Smashing
> P'kins
> 
	they say you have a fixed number of heartbeats in your life time; 
    running in a cage at full hearbeat shortens your life span --but, you'll
    be lean and mean to go!

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    go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say:
      yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off.
_________________________________________________________________ attila__

    To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches....
    There is no safety this side of the grave.  Never was; never will be.

attila writes:
> 	on a little more serious point; the use of multiple high
>     bandwidth proxies is fast becoming essential 
[...]
>     The only clinker is 
>     the big sites are startig to require registration with legal warnings 
>     --next of course is payment and they want a credit card --not a check
>     or cybercash --a credit card for open debit. 

This makes it harder for transitory proxies, but not for fairly permanent
ones, I suspect. An outfit like C2 could presumably register with a corporate
credit card. Its proxy then carries connections paid-as-you-go with e$, or
paid in chunks in advance with a check.

-Lewis	"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage" -Smashing P'kins