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Boycott "Applied Cryptography" and AT&T and RSA

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NODE 03e6a81bBoycott "Applied Cryptography" and AT&T and RSA
Bruce Schnier (Author of applied cryptography) and Matt Blaze (Who
is a crypto bigwig at at&t) have made it clear that they support
key escrow. Both have written letters in favor of the new crypto
law, it creates a key escrow system and also other restricts on
crypto. The letters are on the CDT homepage and i think were
posted here.

WHAT THE FUCK??????????????????????????????????????????

EFF, EPIC, VTW and almost everyone else (except for Bizdos at RSA, hmmmm)
have all come out against this piece of shit. But with these so called
experts baking it it could pass anyway.

Maybe the ltrs are a forgery? We should ask them, and if this is true, LETS
SEND THEM A MESSAGE!!!!!!!! SWITCH YOUR PHONE SERVICE AND TELL AT&T WHY!!!
STOP RECOMMENDING APPLIED CRYPTO (THERE ARE EASIER BOOKS ANYWAY). DEMAND
THAT THESE PEOPLE STOP GIVING AWAY YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

their addresses are
       schneier@counterpane.com
       mab@crypto.com
       jim@rsa.com
NODE e5a1f0e9Re: Boycott "Applied Cryptography" and AT&T and RSA
anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com writes:
> Bruce Schnier (Author of applied cryptography) and Matt Blaze (Who
> is a crypto bigwig at at&t) have made it clear that they support
> key escrow.

Not again. Could this guy please find a nice crowbar with which to pry
his head out of the dark orafice he has stuck it in to?

Perry
NODE 14cc8a32Re: Boycott "Applied Cryptography" and AT&T and RSA
> WHAT THE FUCK??????????????????????????????????????????
> 
> EFF, EPIC, VTW and almost everyone else (except for Bizdos at RSA, hmmmm)
> have all come out against this piece of shit. But with these so called
> experts baking it it could pass anyway.
> 
> Maybe the ltrs are a forgery? We should ask them, and if this is true, LETS
> SEND THEM A MESSAGE!!!!!!!! SWITCH YOUR PHONE SERVICE AND TELL AT&T WHY!!!
> STOP RECOMMENDING APPLIED CRYPTO (THERE ARE EASIER BOOKS ANYWAY). DEMAND
> THAT THESE PEOPLE STOP GIVING AWAY YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not so much concerned about who supports key eskrow, I just want to
learn about cryptography! I sent away for my copy of Applied Cryptography
many months ago and it has yet to show up.

Bruce, please ship out a book to me!

(I would also appreciate a list of these "easier" bookst hat you mention,
as well as any free on-line information on crypto)
NODE 10d93dc6Re: Boycott "Applied Cryptography" and AT&T and RSA
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:58:20 -0800, you wrote:

>Bruce Schnier (Author of applied cryptography) and Matt Blaze (Who
>is a crypto bigwig at at&t) have made it clear that they support
>key escrow. Both have written letters in favor of the new crypto
>law, it creates a key escrow system and also other restricts on
>crypto. The letters are on the CDT homepage and i think were
>posted here.
>
>WHAT THE FUCK??????????????????????????????????????????
>
>EFF, EPIC, VTW and almost everyone else (except for Bizdos at RSA, hmmmm)
>have all come out against this piece of shit. But with these so called
>experts baking it it could pass anyway.
>
>Maybe the ltrs are a forgery? We should ask them, and if this is true, LETS
>SEND THEM A MESSAGE!!!!!!!! SWITCH YOUR PHONE SERVICE AND TELL AT&T WHY!!!
>STOP RECOMMENDING APPLIED CRYPTO (THERE ARE EASIER BOOKS ANYWAY). DEMAND
>THAT THESE PEOPLE STOP GIVING AWAY YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>their addresses are
>       schneier@counterpane.com
>       mab@crypto.com
>       jim@rsa.com

Don't you think you should read the bill prior to condmening those
that support it?

The bill states "Americans should be free to lawfully use whatever
particular encryption techniques, technologies, programs, or products
developed in the marketplace they desire in order to interact
electronically worldwide in a secure private, and confidential
manner;"

The bill gives everyone the right to use whatever publically available
encryption scheme they chose.  The provisions you refer to about key
esrow simply require the escrow agent to be responsible in handling
your key, this provision is to protect those that DICIDE VOLUNTARILY
to escrow keys.  In fact, the escrow agent would be criminally liable
for handing your key over to someone without a court order.  

Your assertion that everyone and his borther has rejected the bill is
simple non-sense.  The VTW and EPIC web pages contain positive, if not
rave reviews of the bill.

 

Dan Weinstein
djw@vplus.com
http://www.vplus.com/~djw
PGP public key is available from my Home Page.
All opinions expressed above are mine.

"I understand by 'freedom of Spirit' something quite definite -
the unconditional will to say No, where it is dangerous to say
No.        
           Friedrich Nietzsche