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NODE 214bf0c0WSJ on Big Java Flaw
Wall Street Journal, March 26, 1996, p. B4.


   Researchers Find Big Security Flaw In Java Language

   By Don Clark


   A team of Princeton University researchers said they
   discovered the most serious security flaw yet in the widely
   used Java programming language from Sun Microsystems Inc.

   The flaw could make it possible for unscrupulous hackers to
   destroy files or cause other types of damage on any
   personal computer that uses Netscape Communications Corp.'s
   Navigator program, said Edward Felten, a Princeton
   assistant professor of computer science who helped discover
   the flaw.

   Netscape Navigator, which uses Java, is the most popular
   software for browsing the Internet's World Wide Web. Java
   enables the creation of tiny programs, called applets, that
   are transferred from a Web site on the Internet to a PC
   running Netscape Navigator.

   Mr. Felten said that unscrupulous people who discovered the
   flaw could boobytrap a Web page on the Internet,
   essentially seizing control of the browser software of any
   PC that tapped into that page. At that point, the hackers
   could read or delete an entire hard disk of data files.
   "The consequences of this flaw are as bad as they can be,"
   he said.

   Sun, a computer maker based in Mountain View, Calif.,
   acknowledged the problem. "This one is a serious bug," said
   Marianne Mueller, a senior Sun engineer specializing in
   security issues.

   The company, alerted by Princeton on Friday, is already
   testing a software fix it has developed for the program and
   hopes to distribute it to Netscape and other users in about
   two days. Those companies are then expected to distribute
   updated versions of their Web browsers or other products to
   users.

   "We plan to fix it and get it out to our customers as fast
   as we can," said Jeff Treuhaft, a Netscape product manager.

   Java was originally touted by Sun as a secure language. But
   at least two other flaws have already been discovered in
   the technology, including a less-serious problem uncovered
   by the Princeton team last month. Sun's Ms. Mueller said
   the problems have been correctable details in the way the
   Java code is written, not problems with its basic design.

   [End]
NODE f59ccd31Re: WSJ on Big Java Flaw
John Young wrote:
>    Wall Street Journal, March 26, 1996, p. B4.
>    Researchers Find Big Security Flaw In Java Language
>    By Don Clark
> 
>    A team of Princeton University researchers said they
>    discovered the most serious security flaw yet in the widely
>    used Java programming language from Sun Microsystems Inc.
> 
>    The flaw could make it possible for unscrupulous hackers to
>    destroy files or cause other types of damage on any
>    personal computer that uses Netscape Communications Corp.'s
>    Navigator program, said Edward Felten, a Princeton
>    assistant professor of computer science who helped discover
>    the flaw.[..]
>    Mr. Felten said that unscrupulous people who discovered the
>    flaw could boobytrap a Web page on the Internet,
>    essentially seizing control of the browser software of any
>    PC that tapped into that page. At that point, the hackers
>    could read or delete an entire hard disk of data files.
>    "The consequences of this flaw are as bad as they can be,"
>    he said.[..]

The generalized halting problem comes to mind...

Since it can be proved that there's no complete set of heuristics
to tell if a given program has a characteristic (such as "secureness")
then sooner or later someone will discover another security flaw.

A question is whether a simple patch is made or if the set of heuristics
is widened (ie, learn from mistakes) so that similar flaws can be found
based on knowledge of that one flaw.
NODE 9b98e37eRe: WSJ on Big Java Flaw
Mutant Rob <wlkngowl@unix.asb.com> writes:

 > The generalized halting problem comes to mind...

While it can be demonstrated that no algorithm exists to
determine whether an arbitrary Turing machine will halt, good
programs generally belong to a class somewhat less expansive than
the totality of possible Turing machines.  By imposing perfectly
reasonable constraints on program structure, it is trivial to
guarantee program termination with almost no loss in the
functionality of the typical programming language.

Indeed, any computer program which executes only forward
branches, and in which the iteration counts of all loops are
known at the time they are entered, is guaranteed to terminate.
Many people would even consider such things to be good
programming practice.

In general, the types of computer program characteristics which
make determination of halting impossible are precisely the
characteristics one does not want in trusted code, because they
make understanding the code and debugging the code intractable.

 > Since it can be proved that there's no complete set of
 > heuristics to tell if a given program has a characteristic
 > (such as "secureness") then sooner or later someone will
 > discover another security flaw.

Again, a statement which applies to Turing machines, but not to
Java.  Java has been carefully restricted to ensure that a
complete analysis of proper program behavior is possible with a
combination of runtime checks and pre-execution scanning of
imported bytecode files.  This was designed into Java from the
start.

While the abstract Java machine is provably secure, real world
implementations may suffer from the usual plethora of ills, such
as creeping damage from overflowed buffers on the stack.  This in
no way implies any faults with Java itself, and such bugs in Java
implementations will be corrected in the usual way with the
passage of time.

 > A question is whether a simple patch is made or if the set
 > of heuristics is widened (ie, learn from mistakes) so that
 > similar flaws can be found based on knowledge of that one
 > flaw.

Again, there are no known security flaws in the abstract Java
machine.  Once all bugs and oversights in existing Java
interpreters are corrected, all Java programs will be rendered
incapable of causing damage to the platforms they are run on,
unless explicitly permitted to do so by an authorized person.

Some patience while the Java support in packages like Netscape
Navigator undergoes the normal process of evolution is to be
encouraged.

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